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Red Hat Expecting X.Org To "Go Into Hard Maintenance Mode Fairly Quickly"
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Originally posted by agronholm View PostExactly. Java on the desktop is FAR from dead. I use PyCharm and many other, less known, Java desktop apps.
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Originally posted by R41N3R View PostWindows 10 on ARM together with x86 Win32 emulation is running all applications expect some special cases where the application developer resisted so far to spent effort. So the switch to Windows 10 on ARM can be done by every user when he feels confident and where it is seamless.
My point is that even if the system is capable of running 99% of typical applications, this 1% of programs that are causing problems or not working can be decisive for users.
In my opinion, Wayland still has too many itches to be recommended as a full replacement for X.Org. End users don't care if something is not working because the developers are lazy or because the proposed solution is just broken. They only pay attention to the current status. And status of Wayland on desktop is far from being perfect.
Phoronix: Prolific Red Hat Developer Starts Up "Wayland Itches" Project Longtime Red Hat developer Hans de Goede who has been responsible for many Linux desktop improvements over the years from laptop support fixes to open-source GPU driver fixes to most recently flicker-free boot has a new area of hacking: taking
God, even Windows 10 on ARM have less issues today. And it kind of works, but users prefers a system that works better.
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Originally posted by Paul Frederick View Post
Has it ever crossed your pea brain that maybe Nvidia licenses technology and it not at liberty to share what isn't theirs?
Has it ever crossed your pea brain that maybe AMD used to license technology that it was not at liberty to share? And that AMD then deliberately chose to invest in writing code in-house to replace the encumbered bits, such that it was possible to take advantage of the FLOSS ecosystem?Last edited by ermo; 29 June 2019, 10:07 AM.
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Originally posted by ermo View Post
Let me deconstruct that argument for you:
Has it ever crossed your pea brain that maybe AMD used to license technology that it was not at liberty to share? And that AMD then deliberately chose to invest in writing code in-house to replace the encumbered bits, such that it was possible to take advantage of the FLOSS ecosystem?
Switching to AMD on a desktop is easy enough, but the selection of laptops with AMD discrete graphics seems extremely limited.
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Originally posted by the_scx View PostFixed.
My point is that even if the system is capable of running 99% of typical applications, this 1% of programs that are causing problems or not working can be decisive for users.
In my opinion, Wayland still has too many itches to be recommended as a full replacement for X.Org. End users don't care if something is not working because the developers are lazy or because the proposed solution is just broken. They only pay attention to the current status. And status of Wayland on desktop is far from being perfect.
Phoronix: Prolific Red Hat Developer Starts Up "Wayland Itches" Project Longtime Red Hat developer Hans de Goede who has been responsible for many Linux desktop improvements over the years from laptop support fixes to open-source GPU driver fixes to most recently flicker-free boot has a new area of hacking: taking
God, even Windows 10 on ARM have less issues today. And it kind of works, but users prefers a system that works better.
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Originally posted by R41N3R View Postdon't see how this discussion is in any way related to the 32 bit abandoning of Canonical. If there would be no multilib suddenly thousands of games wouldn't work anymore, so this was really stupid! With xorg we are just now at a point where the main maintainers will switch focus, this is natural and they overlapped with the Wayland developers before. So xorg is in maintenance mode, nothing new or unexpected. Wayland together with xwayland is running all applications expect some special cases where the application developer resisted so far to spent effort. So the switch to Wayland can be done by every user when he feels confident and where it is seemless.
You're right though, it's important that XWayland gets maintained, which it probably will for a really long time no matter how much scaremongering there is .
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Originally posted by kon14 View Post
It's not, we're not in that thread.
You're right though, it's important that XWayland gets maintained, which it probably will for a really long time no matter how much scaremongering there is .
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