Valve's Dota 2 Game Can (Still) Run Natively On Mir

[Awesomeness]

It's kinda strange that in a world where PulseAudio, raw ALSA, OSS, Jack and more are equally supported via OpenAL and co., choice of display server is so frowned upon. If the Mir devs want their display server to be supported in toolkits / FOSS drivers, they should do the work, but the fact that patches have been outright refused is very unFOSS like.

Canonical's CLA is "unFOSS like" and project maintainers can accept or refuse anything they want.

[Awesomeness]

Last time I checked Mir was open source with GPLv3 license and could be forked by anyone, yes it has CLA but it is hardly closed source proprietary piece of software. As for forced changes in Linux, systemd and Gnome 3 are good examples of what gets forced on users and not all users accepted it.

LOL. Where do systemd and Gnome 3 get forced upon users? Even the most vocal opponents of systemd and Gnome 3, the Debian people, accepted both through democratic processes. The only people arguing and voting in favor of CLA'ed Upstart were bought by Canonical.

[computerquip]

Mir isnt an issue because its another display server. Its an issue because of the reasons it was created and at the time it was created. Canonical tried to draw proprietary support towards Mir while ignoring Wayland which is a snake move to force users onto Mir. The technical reasons Mir was created consisted of naive and unexplored rhetoric.

The whole thing seemed very snake-like and persuaded a lot of people that Canonical is bad.

[DanLamb]

Mir still won't be done by the next LTS, 16.04?!? This is pathetic. This Wayland/Mir stuff has been a headlining desktop Linux change for years with very little results. Linux is still great for servers, but for desktop/workstation/gaming it seems to be falling further behind than the competition.

[Awesomeness]

Mir still won't be done by the next LTS, 16.04?!? This is pathetic. This Wayland/Mir stuff has been a headlining desktop Linux change for years with very little results. Linux is still great for servers, but for desktop/workstation/gaming it seems to be falling further behind than the competition.

You can install a full Gnome Wayland session right now.

[benalib]

That's a claim Shutleworth regularly pulls out of his ass, without ever backing it up with verifiable data.
Even if that were remotely true, it says nothing about desktops in use. If his numbers are somehow calculated via access to Ubuntu's package repos, all Kubuntu, Xubuntu, and even Linux Mint users would be included as well – none of them eyeing Mir.

but valve does know which distro is the most popular one among its community using steam statistics
November 2014 most popular linux distro
Ubuntu 14.04.1 LTS 64 bit
35.09%
-5.72%

Ubuntu 14.10 64 bit
10.82%
+10.82%

Linux Mint 17 Qiana 64 bit
10.10%
+0.04%

Linux 3.10 64 bit
7.48%
-0.07%

Ubuntu 14.04.1 LTS
5.03%
-1.40%

Other
31.47%
-3.68%

[dh04000]

This is pathetic. This Wayland/Mir stuff has been a headlining desktop Linux change for years with very little results. Linux is still great for servers, but for desktop/workstation/gaming it seems to be falling further behind than the competition.

Expect to still be using Xserver for years to come. Remember when BTRFS was a year or two out back in 2008? And the EXT4 was "just a stop gap solution" until BTRFS hit prime time? Lol.

[Cerberus]

Expect to still be using Xserver for years to come. Remember when BTRFS was a year or two out back in 2008? And the EXT4 was "just a stop gap solution" until BTRFS hit prime time? Lol.

Gnome on Wayland that someone mentioned is far from being without issues, but they often pull out that one as proof that Wayland is ready to replace X.org. Neither Mir nor Wayland are ready to replace X.org and they probably wont be able to do that for at least 2 years if not more, and probably a ton of applications will have to run through XMir and XWayland at first. But I welcome the progress as X.org needs replacement. And keep BTRFS away from my computers

[eydee]

I don't see why Canonical doesn't realize that Mir is sentenced to death as long as it has this name. Mir is a space station, end of story.

[Doodzor]

I don't see why Canonical doesn't realize that Mir is sentenced to death as long as it has this name. Mir is a space station, end of story.

Fedora is a hat, end of story.
Windows are architectural fixtures, end of story.
Mountain lion is an animal, end of story.
Android is robot, end of story.
Maya is an ancient civilization, end of story.

All sentenced to death by their names...