GNOME Wayland Is Approved For Fedora 21

[89c51]

Hopefully this will put some pressure to mozilla and others in order to get their apps running without XWayland.

[gufide]

That's because Gnome is irresponsible by beginning such a huge migration after a stable release series started.

KDE is doing the right thing: A huge migration as part of a new major version. Maybe Plasma 2.0.0 won't be completely Wayland-capable but the major groundwork has been laid and complete Wayland support will be nothing but a few bugfixes.

Actually, GNOME has put way more time in GTK3 support than wayland. It took how many years before they finished GNOME shell? Right now KDE is doing both transition at the same time, and they are doing it pretty fast. Focusing plasma2 and Qt5 is one step closer to wayland, and now every KF5 applications will be able to run on wayland with the right backend compiled, the very one thing that misses is Kwin compatibility and plasma2 port.

[Awesomeness]

As a KDE user I'm saddened that KDE prioritised Qt 5 over switching to Wayland. [?] Gnome have put most effort into Wayland.

That's because Gnome is irresponsible by beginning such a huge migration after a stable release series started.

KDE is doing the right thing: A huge migration as part of a new major version. Maybe Plasma 2.0.0 won't be completely Wayland-capable but the major groundwork has been laid and complete Wayland support will be nothing but a few bugfixes.

[pingufunkybeat]

As a KDE user I'm saddened that KDE prioritised Qt 5 over switching to Wayland.

Qt5 supports Wayland.

Qt4 does not.

[Adriannho]

I definitely wait for that monkey suit

Sorry bro, but you already missed the monkey suit!

See here:

http://www.jupiterbroadcasting.com/53867/mir-monkey-business-las-s31e05/

[gilboa]

As a KDE user I'm saddened that KDE prioritised Qt 5 over switching to Wayland. Wayland is absolutely vital for Linux desktop, the actual Linux that most of us enthusiasts care most about, if its to break out of its ghetto. Valve recognise this, which is why I think they based their steam machine on Gnome as Gnome have put most effort into Wayland. This is why Canonical's treachery with their 1984 newsspeak style named Unity desktop should not be forgiven. Canonical is the enemy within, hence if it was a choice between my money going to Microsoft or Canonical I would give it to Microsoft.

You do understand that KDE is based on Qt, and only Qt 5 supports Wayland, right?

As for your trollish Canonical comment, I would suggest you keep to the subject; the forums admins tend to be give people some (too much) slack, but you'll earn yourself a ban in the end.

- Gilboa

[Rich Oliver]

As a KDE user I'm saddened that KDE prioritised Qt 5 over switching to Wayland. Wayland is absolutely vital for Linux desktop, the actual Linux that most of us enthusiasts care most about, if its to break out of its ghetto. Valve recognise this, which is why I think they based their steam machine on Gnome as Gnome have put most effort into Wayland. This is why Canonical's treachery with their 1984 newsspeak style named Unity desktop should not be forgiven. Canonical is the enemy within, hence if it was a choice between my money going to Microsoft or Canonical I would give it to Microsoft.

[Awesomeness]

Part of me was hoping the delayed F-21 release would allow the team to focus on mature stability, rather than bleedingedgekitchensinkcandystoreitis. But then it wouldn't be Fedora, so what would be the point?

Fedora has become very stable in recent releases.
This approval only means that Gnome-on-Wayland will be included, not hat it'll be the only choice. Gnome on Xorg will be available just as all other DEs on Xorg.

[Nobu]

If all you need is stability, then CentOS is fine...no need to go all out and get RedHat. If, on the other hand, you need support, then by all means...

[MartinN]

Part of me was hoping the delayed F-21 release would allow the team to focus on mature stability, rather than bleedingedgekitchensinkcandystoreitis. But then it wouldn't be Fedora, so what would be the point?

You can always buy a redhat license if you want stability... Meantime, run F21, test it, break it -it's not like the thing is going to test itself when it's out. For stability, you run something other than the latest Fedora release.