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GNOME Wayland Is Approved For Fedora 21
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After recent rawhide update few hours ago, i finally can launch gnome Wayland session on Fedora rawhide, just selecting it in gdm. It works even on radeon 7850 (was only Inter graphics support before), all looks very similar as in X, except scrolling step in firefox using mouse weel more lines then usual. I think it very unfinished and use Xwayland for everything. "ps" show two gdm sessions in process hierarhy , it expected as i remember note somewhere that need work related to autenticatoin. Still, it already very usable, all that gnome-shell transitions, terminal, firefox work w/o any glitch. Cannot run any OpenGL 3D, it tell i have no 3d support.
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Originally posted by jern View Post"KF5 will have Wayland support [. . .] on par with Microsoft Windows or OS X support."
"For the workspaces it?s more complex. Our aim for the first release of Plasma Next has never been to fully support Wayland or do the migration to Wayland."
"As we are entering the alpha release state shortly we can be quite certain that the Plasma desktop shell will not support Wayland."
KDE. Right. GNOME. Wrong. Grunt.
And whatever little mental jumps you have to do to justify that are a-OK.
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Originally posted by MartinN View PostYou can always buy a redhat license if you want stability... Meantime, run F21, test it, break it -it's not like the thing is going to test itself when it's out. For stability, you run something other than the latest Fedora release.
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Originally posted by pipe13 View PostPart of me was hoping the delayed F-21 release would allow the team to focus on mature stability, rather than bleedingedgekitchensinkcandystoreitis. But then it wouldn't be Fedora, so what would be the point?
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Is there still time to take a Wayland-as-default decision? When do the proposals wrap-up?
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Originally posted by jern View Post"KF5 will have Wayland support [. . .] on par with Microsoft Windows or OS X support."
"For the workspaces it?s more complex. Our aim for the first release of Plasma Next has never been to fully support Wayland or do the migration to Wayland."
"As we are entering the alpha release state shortly we can be quite certain that the Plasma desktop shell will not support Wayland."
KDE. Right. GNOME. Wrong. Grunt.
And whatever little mental jumps you have to do to justify that are a-OK.
In the case of KDE their first priority is Qt5 migration and slim KDElibs, so the first release will probably be for the brave of heart and then probably for 5.1 wayland will come since most of the work is done(they dont wanna chase 2 rabbits at once)
So until at least KF5.2 is released is better people for stay with KDE4 series since due the migration they sorta make it an LTS release to ease the migration process(maybe gnome should have done this when 3.0 was released)
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Originally posted by Awesomeness View PostThat's because Gnome is irresponsible by beginning such a huge migration after a stable release series started.
KDE is doing the right thing: A huge migration as part of a new major version. Maybe Plasma 2.0.0 won't be completely Wayland-capable but the major groundwork has been laid and complete Wayland support will be nothing but a few bugfixes.
"For the workspaces it?s more complex. Our aim for the first release of Plasma Next has never been to fully support Wayland or do the migration to Wayland."
"As we are entering the alpha release state shortly we can be quite certain that the Plasma desktop shell will not support Wayland."
KDE. Right. GNOME. Wrong. Grunt.
And whatever little mental jumps you have to do to justify that are a-OK.
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Originally posted by gufide View PostI definitely wait for that monkey suit
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