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Reasons For Losing Motivation In Wayland
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First off it seems two of the bugs where fixed (patches created) right after Darxus sent his email (and one no longer even affected him). The only oustanding issue is the unit tests which isnt really a reason to stop playing with Wayland.
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Darxus, a Wayland enthusiast and Phoronix Forums moderatorLast edited by timothyja; 12 June 2013, 11:54 PM.
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Originally posted by Awesomeness View PostAll Ubuntu derivatives will eventually ship Mir. Desktops like Xfce may run via the X11 compatibility layer (XMir) but they'll ship Mir nonetheless.
There are plenty of easy to use Linux distributions that are not based on Ubuntu. Don't like Mir? Just switch. It's so easy.
It remains to be seen exactly how complicated it will be to strip out. If it's easy, i bet some won't. If it's baked into the very core of Ubuntu and almost impossible to remove, then you're probably right and it will remain in all derivatives.
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Reading the email thread made this stuff look pretty good actually.
Someone replied quickly and fixed the stuff that was complained about, offered support for everything, too.
The only thing that doesn't seems fixed are the failing cairo tests, but those can be ignored until they're fixed.
They're also not wayland's "fault" or direct responsibility as others pointed out already.
Thus I'm not sure if theres much reason to badmouth wayland right now. If anything, reading the emails make it looks nice.
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Originally posted by Awesomeness View PostAll Ubuntu derivatives will eventually ship Mir. Desktops like Xfce may run via the X11 compatibility layer (XMir) but they'll ship Mir nonetheless.
There are plenty of easy to use Linux distributions that are not based on Ubuntu. Don't like Mir? Just switch. It's so easy.
I think if Ubuntu makes it too hard to strip Mir, a lot of derivatives are going to be rebasing or quitting...
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closed drivers
EGL drivers are much easier to develop, especially since they are shared between surface flinger, mir, and ubuntu, and close to what OSX is using (well, EGL is a standard after all).
There is absolutely no doubt that NVidia will produce a closed wayland compatible driver. But obviously as long as Wayland is not in a shipping state, they wont commit themselves, let alone commercially support a driver.
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Same looking is not same
Originally posted by johnc View PostBut the end result is the same.
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Originally posted by Awesomeness View PostAll Ubuntu derivatives will eventually ship Mir. Desktops like Xfce may run via the X11 compatibility layer (XMir) but they'll ship Mir nonetheless.
There are plenty of easy to use Linux distributions that are not based on Ubuntu. Don't like Mir? Just switch. It's so easy.
But, I'm aware Canonical can't care less about me, and Mir as tech isn't necessarily bad (again, I'm not sure what is it as tech), so I might even give it a try before switching. But my bet is on Wayland.
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Originally posted by johnc View PostOne of the downsides I see is that there appears to be as much developer interest in Wayland as there is in X.
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Originally posted by ᘜᕟᗃᒟ View PostIf I could get PM and reasonable clock switching and Digital Vibrancy on my Quadro 140m I'd pay $30-$50 a month and wash and feed the developers myself. "Ain't nobody got time fo' Nvidia BS."
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