Kinda pointless to create a distribution just to show off the new plumbing layer.
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Originally posted by ворот93 View PostKinda pointless to create a distribution just to show off the new plumbing layer.
Plumbing layer...is it the new definition of display server? :-)
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Nice! Unstable and pre-alpha as it may be, it's quite cool to run Wayland/Weston for myself. Reading about progress is one thing; actually opening a web browser, watching a YouTube video, and posting on Phoronix without X11 is quite another. I might post a summary of my impressions soon for those not brave enough (or unable) to try it for themselves.
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Originally posted by nerdopolis View PostThere should be a networkmanager, but you have to start it manually. It should be in the panel at the top, as the wifi icon next to the speaker icon.
The demo browser contained some 'artwork' homepage. I almost had my Phoronix post ready from the LiveCD until it crashed . Seems like programs are not capable of restarting.
- Most applications (XWayland only?) contain no window buttons (maximize, close, minimize)
- Focus works when clicking, but no autofocus
- Drop-down menu's still show up somewhat randomly
- Knetworkmanager flickers heavily
- Cannot provide screenshot as both the demobrowser and Firefox fail with the error 'No Javascript' (I tried to use ctrlv.in)
- Assuming the demobrowser was Wayland native, it worked pretty good already!
- No mousewheel scrolling in terminal (Wayland native?)
- No window bar
- Dragging and click to focus works...
Apps are having issue's, like:
Code:beccaholic@beccaholic:/$ ksnapshot ksnapshot: symbol lookup error: /usr/lib/libkipi.so.10: undefined symbol: _ZNK13KXMLGUIClient13componentDataEv beccaholic@beccaholic:/$
Final note: Posted from (X)Wayland! Now, back to the 80's...
EDIT: Quitting the browser from within (File -> Exit) does not work (lol!).Last edited by Rexilion; 26 May 2013, 06:25 AM.
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Originally posted by valeriodean View PostYour statement is in contradiction with itself: in the first part you declare it as pointless when in the second part you just to show off what it is the point. Take a decision.
Plumbing layer...is it the new definition of display server? :-)
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Originally posted by Rexilion View PostYeah, found it!
The demo browser contained some 'artwork' homepage. I almost had my Phoronix post ready from the LiveCD until it crashed . Seems like programs are not capable of restarting.
- Most applications (XWayland only?) contain no window buttons (maximize, close, minimize)
- Focus works when clicking, but no autofocus
- Drop-down menu's still show up somewhat randomly
- Knetworkmanager flickers heavily
- Cannot provide screenshot as both the demobrowser and Firefox fail with the error 'No Javascript' (I tried to use ctrlv.in)
- Assuming the demobrowser was Wayland native, it worked pretty good already!
- No mousewheel scrolling in terminal (Wayland native?)
- No window bar
- Dragging and click to focus works...
Apps are having issue's, like:
Code:beccaholic@beccaholic:/$ ksnapshot ksnapshot: symbol lookup error: /usr/lib/libkipi.so.10: undefined symbol: _ZNK13KXMLGUIClient13componentDataEv beccaholic@beccaholic:/$
Final note: Posted from (X)Wayland! Now, back to the 80's...
EDIT: Quitting the browser from within (File -> Exit) does not work (lol!).
Faults like having no chrome, no buttons and menus that don't work properly (can't even quit) does not sound anything close to 'usable' as of now.
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Originally posted by asdxOk sorry, I love Wayland, and I like that this distro is nice way to test it, I just can't stand all these Justin Bieber, Rebecca Black, Hannah Montana names for Linux distros, I mean, I'm sick of it.
Originally posted by ворот93 View PostAnd I still stand by what I said: it is moronic to waste time on a distribution that shows off just one single piece of software. Learn to read bro.
Please, take your frustrations elsewhere.
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Originally posted by Sonadow View PostBased on your experience I can assume that Wayland and XWayland are still not ready for adoption by the end-user?
Faults like having no chrome, no buttons and menus that don't work properly (can't even quit) does not sound anything close to 'usable' as of now.
For those who want to play with the CD, it's mostly a Kubuntu LiveCD with two added packages:- wayland-rbos
- weston-rbos
You can play with them by listing their contents like this:
Code:dpkg -L wayland-rbos | less
EDIT: You also mentioned 'chrome'. I guess you are referring to 'Google Chrome'. That is a case apart (from what I have heard) as it uses some direct X calls bypassing the toolkits. So it will take an effort of the Google developers to make it work on Wayland. Don't know when that will happen though... This also depends on how much is actually bypassing the toolkits.Last edited by Rexilion; 26 May 2013, 07:23 AM.
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