Kubuntu, KDE Has Little Hope For Ubuntu's Mir

[Alex Sarmiento]

So why is Red Hat so invested in GNOME, KDE, LibreOffice, Mesa, and X.org? Just for fun? Nah!
Red Hat makes serious money deploying RHEL on corporate desktops. Red Hat is so successful, they don't need selling boxed copies in stores or make shady privacy-violating deals with Amazon?

You know what red hat is , how it is and what is for right?

[Awesomeness]

You know what red hat is , how it is and what is for right?

Yes. Red Hat is the most successful Linux distributor in existence who is improving all kinds of projects within the Linux ecosystem, ranging from the biggest server to regular desktops.

[Alex Sarmiento]

Yes. Red Hat is the most successful Linux distributor in existence who is improving all kinds of projects within the Linux ecosystem, ranging from the biggest server to regular desktops.

What regular desktops?

[ShadowBane]

What regular desktops?

Regular desktops like the one sitting in my living room right now. It is running multiple pieces of software that were funded largely by Red Hat, including systemd, NetworkManager, PulseAudio, DBus, etc.

[chithanh]

Red Hat is the most successful Linux distributor in existence

No, the most successful one is Google.

[jrch2k8]

http://nvidianews.nvidia.com/Release...aming-8ac.aspx

http://linuxgamenews.biz/2013/01/21/amds-linux-drivers-offer-improved-gaming-performance/

It seems, they do care. Mainly because of Valve and you probably know, which distro they focus on.

they care about valve and prolly nVidia and AMD will enable low hanging fruit hacks they have for those engines in windows and even fix a bug if needed, my point is if canonical comes with Canonical EGL and Redhat have regular EGL nVidia and AMD will stick to regular EGL because is where the money is right now and the short time future, canonical and valve is promising but is not effective sales right now [both need to mature more to accomplish so] Redhat is effective sells of expensive hardware right now and in the medium term.

my second point EGL/KMS is the only thing needed in the drivers for Mir or Wayland, the rest of the protocols/server are HW independant, so is important Mir stick to standard EGL because Valve/Canonical is not enough to outweight RedHat for at least 2 more years and if they sorely need some things different from standard EGL try to use extensions[have more chance than getting 2 diff versions of EGL in the blobs]

[ninez]

Unity is GNOME.

No, not really.

Yeah really. While it may not be entirely accurate to say that Unity *is* Gnome - it is certainly accurate to say that Unity is a Shell for Gnome 3 (because it very much is). Ubuntu certainly (downstream) patches some of Gnome's apps/libs/etc - but they are still using Gnome as their base with compiz + unity. (currently in their releases, obviously not Unity-next)... Unity is largely just another Shell for Gnome, Like GS, cinnamon, pantheon. - it just doesn't use GS/fork and mutter and instead uses compiz.

So why is Red Hat so invested in GNOME, KDE, LibreOffice, Mesa, and X.org? Just for fun? Nah!
Red Hat makes serious money deploying RHEL on corporate desktops. Red Hat is so successful, they don't need selling boxed copies in stores or make shady privacy-violating deals with Amazon?

+1

[Alex Sarmiento]

Regular desktops like the one sitting in my living room right now. It is running multiple pieces of software that were funded largely by Red Hat, including systemd, NetworkManager, PulseAudio, DBus, etc.

Yeah but not a lot of people use redhat desktop, is not impressive at all, and frankly fedora sucks right now. The whole point of redhat is their services business model for enterprise .

For the regular desktop, the Ubuntu implementation is the best one. Ubuntu works just fine in the server side too.

[duby229]

Yeah but not a lot of people use redhat desktop, is not impressive at all, and frankly fedora sucks right now. The whole point of redhat is their services business model for enterprise .

For the regular desktop, the Ubuntu implementation is the best one. Ubuntu works just fine in the server side too.

I think the point ShadowBane was trying to make is that is doesnt matter what distro you use. Chances are highly likely that you are using multiple codebases that Redhat financed in full or in part. The same is highly unlikely to be true of Canonical.

[Alex Sarmiento]

I think the point ShadowBane was trying to make is that is doesnt matter what distro you use. Chances are highly likely that you are using multiple codebases that Redhat financed in full or in part. The same is highly unlikely to be true of Canonical.

And that's irrelevant. I don't care, is free software.