Wayland's Weston 13 Compositor Planned For Release Next Month

[MorrisS.]

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[dimko]

Weston should be the compositor of the main Linux OSes.

Why is that?

From looks of it KDE and Gnome do good with it so far. They are no perfet but reasonably good for overwhelming majority of use cases. IMHO, anyway...

[jamesblacklock]

Every time any Phoronix article mentions Wayland, I come here to the comments section just to chuckle at the devoted Wayland trolls.

But today they are missing!

Where did you go, trolls? Someone said something about Wayland! Quick, get in here!

[MorrisS.]

Why is that?

From looks of it KDE and Gnome do good with it so far. They are no perfet but reasonably good for overwhelming majority of use cases. IMHO, anyway...

they are not explicit sync unlike Weston, moreover, Weston is a modern compositor well maintained.

[dimko]

they are not explicit sync unlike Weston, moreover, Weston is a modern compositor well maintained.

KDE has option for sync.
Gnome WILL have it too, sooner or later(its on dev roadmap, i believe latest version of gnome already support hardware sync, its just not in mainstream yet).
Both are well maintained.

[fitzie]

Every time any Phoronix article mentions Wayland, I come here to the comments section just to chuckle at the devoted Wayland trolls.

But today they are missing!

Where did you go, trolls? Someone said something about Wayland! Quick, get in here!

all wayland lovers have been vanquished. we will see if they return when wayland 2 is finally announced.

[oiaohm]

all wayland lovers have been vanquished. we will see if they return when wayland 2 is finally announced.

No they know the battle is won.

Let's remove the targets this cycle and maybe carry on with removing rest of the x11 session code next cycle.

Gnome is starting the process of X11 support code removal. There are already merge requests at gnome to completely remove the X11 session code. How long now until we have GTK/Qt merge requests to remove X11 support. Its not if GTK/Qt will remove X11 support now but when.

Like it not the rug is being pulled. The users complaining most of them are not paying X11 x.org/Gnome/KDE developers directly or indirectly.

[back2未來]

Ones with older hardware, rare hardware and seeking a light distribution for limited gpu power hardware are probably better served with x11 distributions at 2023/2024(?) timescale? Examples for light distro's can be sway or wayfire. Others?

[oiaohm]

Ones with older hardware, rare hardware and seeking a light distribution for limited gpu power hardware are probably better served with x11 distributions at 2023/2024(?) timescale? Examples for light distro's can be sway or wayfire. Others?

https://www.phoronix.com/news/GNOME-Wayland-ASpeed

It more comes down to does the hardware have a KMS driver or not with Wayland.

ASpeed graphics is technically not a GPU. ASpeed is a 2D Video Graphic Adapter and it even a poor version of that.

Most wayland compositors can work decently with Aspeed graphics adapter. Remember GPU stands for graphical processing unit and the ASpeed items don't have that and are modern made hardware seen in the server world quite a bit.

[dpeterc]

No they know the battle is won.



Gnome is starting the process of X11 support code removal. There are already merge requests at gnome to completely remove the X11 session code. How long now until we have GTK/Qt merge requests to remove X11 support. Its not if GTK/Qt will remove X11 support now but when.

Like it not the rug is being pulled. The users complaining most of them are not paying X11 x.org/Gnome/KDE developers directly or indirectly.

So your idea of open source is a kind for ransomware - If you don't pay the developer, they will dismantle your perfectly working desktop into a buggy mess and keep removing features?

They plan to replace X11 with Wayland, which can't even properly do cut & paste? After 15 years of development? Note that cut & paste was invented in 1973. Every GUI system since Xerox had a working cut & paste, only Wayland can't do it properly.

https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=579653

https://www.reddit.com/r/wayland/comments/vrelli/applications_crashing_on_pasting/

https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1745614

https://gitlab.freedesktop.org/wayland/weston/-/issues/461

https://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/msg865000.html
https://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/msg846560.html
https://www.reddit.com/r/kdeneon/comments/10bdnv3/copy_paste_from_firefox_other_apps_is_broken/
https://gitlab.com/qemu-project/qemu/-/issues/1455
https://github.com/ValveSoftware/steam-for-linux/issues/9474
... it is an endless list, and these are all quite recent (less than 2 years old).