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  • #31
    Originally posted by shmerl View Post

    The last one I see is 18.3.1 in experimental: https://tracker.debian.org/pkg/mesa
    And I have it installed I'm still building Mesa master periodically, to use newer llvm.
    It is accepted so entering Sid, now building, so first in incoming repo still:

    http://incoming.debian.org/

    That is for these who *really* can't wait couple hours

    It is a slow process, you know. Takes time as it needs to build for 20 architectures or at least 10 For somebody it might appear only in 12 hours, depending on geographic location or whatever

    edit: and 18.2.8 backport accepted for Debian 9, so everything is up to date
    Last edited by dungeon; 01-17-2019, 04:42 PM.

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    • #32
      Originally posted by dungeon View Post

      It is accepted so entering Sid, now building, so first in incoming repo still:

      http://incoming.debian.org/

      That is for these who *really* can't wait couple hours
      Good to know, thanks! Bookmarked

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      • #33
        Originally posted by tichun View Post

        "Hey Joe, listen, I'm calling you because your Ubuntu has outdated drivers.
        I have instructions to update them, listen, google 'padoka ppa', ctrl+f 'sudo add-apt-repository ' and copy this whole line, open terminal, paste it, type your password, press enter, type sudo apt dist-upgrade -y and here you go.
        Listen, if that is somewhat uncomfortable feel free to install Arch Linux, you'll have updated graphic driver by default.
        You could also wait, because it is not available as of yet, and then fire up the terminal and type 'sudo apt-get install --install-recommends linux-generic-hwe-18.04 xserver-xorg-hwe-18.04 ' - it will still be outdated but a little bit less .
        Hope you are enjoying your Linux stay
        PS
        Remember to repeat the process for your family members and friends that use Ubuntu as well."

        edit: were these PPA's so stable/tested, wouldn't Canonical just add them by themselves?
        If windows users can go to a vendor website, navigate the options to find the download, then run through multiple step installers, they can definitely copy/paste a sudo apt command.

        There are options out there that have made it even easier, too, and provide things like a single clickable link that does all the work for you.

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        • #34
          Originally posted by tichun View Post
          What do you mean that users are encouraged to upgrade?
          Actual users of upstream software, and the people addressed in the mailing list are either people running a Linux From Scratch setup or distro/ppa/repository maintainers.

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          • #35
            Originally posted by shmerl View Post

            Good to know, thanks! Bookmarked
            Well, just to say how first thing i spot in comparison of this 18.3.2 to earlier 18.2.8 are black artifacticts (kind of zfighting here and there) in various games regression Basically it is very much better to discourage average Joes to use these first points of so called stable, but actually timed releases of either kernels or mesas too

            Any project which do timed releases so they must release something on time, is by definition or soooner or later will be broken simply because as that goes against nature of people Stability is something that depends on testing and on real proof that something is not borked, that always require more time always more time than average Joe libido desires

            I really think (regardless what marketing wanna claim ) that first releases of nearly everthing is broken, there is not enough testing so that everything is fine on releases. So rolling releases of everything but without issues for an average Joe is real and had always been very pretty shiny utter real... mission impossible
            Last edited by dungeon; 01-18-2019, 06:09 AM.

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            • #36
              But, OK could be Debian issue still, will see... as this 18.3.2 is first one in Sid that is built with Meson, while before one was with Autotools

              So could be cockroaches are coming from there, Meson might decide to pick his own off flags or whatever

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              • #37
                Originally posted by smitty3268 View Post

                If windows users can go to a vendor website, navigate the options to find the download, then run through multiple step installers, they can definitely copy/paste a sudo apt command.

                There are options out there that have made it even easier, too, and provide things like a single clickable link that does all the work for you.
                But they usually have this strange allergy towards command line interfaces, and they are stuck with old bad habits they refuse to change. They often think of the hard, inefficient and insecure way as the easy efficient way and vice versa.

                The few who do give the gnu and the penguin a chance often think they have to do everything in the terminal even when there's a GUI option they didn't even bother to look for, and whenever they should use the terminal, they just sit and look through the GUI options.

                Then they start copy pasta random things they don't understand into the terminal which breaks their distro and they're back to Windows again.

                Windows users are wierd...

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                • #38
                  People are not quilty, they just wanna click & tap. Like it or not, but these are Desktop and Phone consumer clauses, for decade(s)+ already

                  I started with Commodore 64, i286 PC, then Amiga, blah, blah... so to me console and keyboarding is normal, but i can't expect same thing from millenials, no.

                  So, if you can't click it or tap it - it is nothing It is nothing if you can't tap from Mesa version 18.2.8 to 18.3.2 And who cares about any versions, things should just work preferably always, but of course in reality that does not happen - there are constant issues, we like to call bugs (some of which are even considered as "not our bugs" until that claim is proven to be false)

                  There are some who don't want even to click or tap, these without hands want everything to be automatically upgraded to whatever versions they dreamed today
                  Last edited by dungeon; 01-18-2019, 09:12 AM.

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                  • #39
                    Blah, that NINE even throws assertions with Debian 18.3.2 version package, without dbg installed of course

                    wine: ../src/gallium/auxiliary/tgsi/tgsi_ureg.h:904: ureg_writemask: Assertion `reg.File != TGSI_FILE_NULL' failed.
                    Hm, why they enabled asserts there? Meson i guess somewhere. Shouldn't these things should just fail silently for consumers?

                    On 18.2.8 Autotools builded version it just missrender but continue, now it just stops everything
                    Last edited by dungeon; 01-18-2019, 09:33 AM.

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                    • #40
                      Reveting back to 18.2.8, f*ck this borked 18.3.2 i don't have time for this... is how i think typical Windows users would behave

                      Really enough testing, reverting as this i borked still. Tested NINE mostly as that wanna be in distro, but this one 18.3.2 is worse than 18.2.8, so blah
                      Last edited by dungeon; 01-18-2019, 11:45 AM.

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