Nouveau Patches Posted For Running On NVIDIA GSP-RM Firmware, Initial RTX 40 Ada Support

[toughy]

Can someone post build instructions, maybe on a blog ? I just can't wait for the full kernel release...

[toughy]

This is awesome news!

TBH I don't see a future where Nouveau holds any sort of performance edge to Nvidia's in house, but hey, a better default experience is still awesome!

Oh, after a decade of reclocking firmware conspicuously missing from NVIDIA, at this point I would be so happy with just 85-90% of the performance of the proprietary driver ! No performance edge needed

[mdedetrich]

AMD's driver has generated header files for registers and such, Nvidia's driver has compiled binaries without any public source code embedded in it. It looks like those might be firmware but that's still not okay for upstream, it has to load those from disk.

Are you talking about NVidia's open source driver, because we were in both cases talking about source code not binaries (and in both cases the source code is pregenerated from some firmware).

Obviously NVidia's blob is closed source, but thats a separate discussion/point.

[Amaranth]

Are you talking about NVidia's open source driver, because we were in both cases talking about source code not binaries (and in both cases the source code is pregenerated from some firmware).

Obviously NVidia's blob is closed source, but thats a separate discussion/point.

Ok, so you're willfully obtuse then. Understood.

[mdedetrich]

Ok, so you're willfully obtuse then. Understood.

And you have issues with reading comprehension

[Amaranth]

And you have issues with reading comprehension

Ok, fine, we can try again. Does this look like source code? Can you point to anywhere in the AMD driver that is included in the kernel that has something similar? Like I said, it looks like it's probably just firmware but that's still a program binary converted to byte array and dumped into the source code. That disqualifies it from being included in the kernel.

To clarify in case you misunderstood the first time, I'm not saying that file is generated _from_ firmware, I'm saying that file most likely _is_ firmware.

[mdedetrich]

Ok, fine, we can try again. Does this look like source code? Can you point to anywhere in the AMD driver that is included in the kernel that has something similar? Like I said, it looks like it's probably just firmware but that's still a program binary converted to byte array and dumped into the source code. That disqualifies it from being included in the kernel.

To clarify in case you misunderstood the first time, I'm not saying that file is generated _from_ firmware, I'm saying that file most likely _is_ firmware.

You mean this https://github.com/NVIDIA/open-gpu-k...ata.c#L84-L109 ? I don't believe it is what you think it is.

In fact according to the README, the only binaries they provide are the OS agnostic ones and this is out of convenience/practicality (i.e. they take ages to compile), see https://github.com/NVIDIA/open-gpu-k...kernel-modules

[Amaranth]

In fact according to the README, the only binaries they provide are the OS agnostic ones and this is out of convenience/practicality (i.e. they take ages to compile), see https://github.com/NVIDIA/open-gpu-k...kernel-modules

That's talking about how you build a `.run` package that contains binary code and a source code shim, just like the proprietary driver. They're selling it as a compile savings but it's probably just because they reused the design and installer from the proprietary version. The binary parts are compiled from source as a part of making the `.run`, it's not what I linked to in my last post.

[mdedetrich]

That's talking about how you build a `.run` package that contains binary code and a source code shim, just like the proprietary driver. They're selling it as a compile savings but it's probably just because they reused the design and installer from the proprietary version. The binary parts are compiled from source as a part of making the `.run`, it's not what I linked to in my last post.

I know, but what you linked to in your last post is not evidence that they are putting a binary in https://github.com/NVIDIA/open-gpu-k...de_GA100.c#L29