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Red Hat Developers Continue Working On OpenCL/Compute For Nouveau
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Originally posted by tiwake View PostIf this was the case, coreboot would make much more sense than trying to make nvidia products work without blobs.
Running NVIDIA GPUs with a driver you control is much more interesting if your core businness does encompass computing nodes and workstations like RedHat. They can optimize it regardless of what NVIDIA thinks is best for its own sales.
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Is this may be related to the new restrictive license of the GeForce drivers which forbid the use of these CG in data centers? This licence is only about the software part, not the hardware. And redhat has many customer in the data center market which use GeForce...
I may be wrong...
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Originally posted by cybertraveler View PostThis theory I have is more plausible when you consider that Valve are almost exactly following this pattern in a different market to mitigate the threat of Microsoft using their near-monopoly position to take over the extremely lucrative PC game distribution and social platform market. Valve are investing in Open Source, GPU, driver development.
This is the best I've got
In Red Hat's case they are doing it without the support of the IHV!!
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Originally posted by cybertraveler View Post
Personally, I think nouveau is essential even if it remains slow. It the very least it can serve as a fast-enough, basic and reliable graphics driver to allow GNU/Linux distributions to just-work on most systems it is booted on. The user can get a desktop environment running and do basic tasks without the need of the proprietary driver.
For my "internet browsing" machine, I don't bother installing the NVIDIA blob and nouveau is perfectly adequate for posting this message on a forum
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Originally posted by kpedersen View Post
Yes, I agree with this. RedHat isn't really into the gaming market but after installing an OS and having the screen stretched over your monitor at around 640x480 resolution is not good for end user experience. Any correct graphics displaying, is fine for many workstation and especially server usage. It must actually be quite liberating not having to worry too much about the shits that are NVIDIA and AMD
For my "internet browsing" machine, I don't bother installing the NVIDIA blob and nouveau is perfectly adequate for posting this message on a forum
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Originally posted by kpedersen View PostAny correct graphics displaying, is fine for many workstation and especially server usage.
They want performance on 3D (OpenGL) and computing (OpenCL and CUDA) as they are used to render CAD or 3D modeling, or used to run calculations for various things.
Which is why they are working on OpenCL on noveau as stated in this article. I'm unsure about how useful it can be if the card does not work at higher frequencies because they don't load the firmwares NVIDIA isn't releasing.
For my "internet browsing" machine, I don't bother installing the NVIDIA blob and nouveau is perfectly adequate for posting this message on a forum
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Originally posted by starshipeleven View PostWorkstations don't install NVIDIA dedicated GPUs to get "correct displaying", and servers don't even care about display at all because most have a "integrated" graphics in their remote management system.
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If you are just browsing the internet why are you using a dedicated GPU at all? I assume that is a PC with no integrated graphics at all?
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Originally posted by cybertraveler View Post
You seem surprised by his setup. It's pretty normal. There's millions of old PCs out there with old NVIDIA graphics cards in them. These machines can be given new life by installing a lightweight GNU/Linux distribution on them. And yes, many of them will either have no integrated graphics or they will have worse performance using the integrated graphics over the discrete card with the nouveau drivers.
It was a waste? Of course, but wasn't me that bought it so...
On a interesting note, Red Hat was among the list of officially supported OS on the documentation. People tend to ignore Linux on the desktop, but on enterprise market that is not the case at all. And looking at how much money Red Hat make, they are taken really serious by big hardware vendors.Last edited by M@GOid; 29 April 2018, 07:54 AM.
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Originally posted by cybertraveler View Post[*]Red Hat recognise that they are competing with Microsoft.[*]Red Hat recognise that Microsoft have a recorded history of utilizing their near-monopoly to make special deals with hardware manufacturers to promote their software & services at the expense of their competitors.
The end customers have far more clout, and ultimately drive the decisions about which operating systems Nvidia will support.
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