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Originally posted by NaterGator*snip*
I have the exact same experience using the R420 (Radeon x800 xt pe). Random desktop lockups (not even reisub can bring it back) and horribly slow performance doing some 2D stuff.
Maybe this is just a R420 issue?
Originally posted by NaterGator*snip*
I can finally report success! After going through some of the source and bugzilla I came across the manpage for exa (duh!) and realized I was forgetting to set AccelDFS to on! After adding that to my device section Xv acceleration is properly compositing, and outputing planet earth in 720p resulted in 4% CPU utilization even when dragging around the wobbly window.
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A bold comment?
Um, is there an ATI representative listening.
I own an ATI X1650 256 DDR2 PCIe card that performs flawlessly under Vista, but I despise VISTA, and Microsoft, so it's Linux.
BUT! I still cannot play video using the hardware and run compiz at the same time in any linux distribution using this card. It's been on the market for over a year now. What's UP?
Let's sum up the issue, from a user point of view. How you see it may be different but users are the one's spending the money.- Radeon
- RadeonHD
- ATI
- FGLRX
- AVIVO
Why not just spend an afternoon and make ONE work like it should? We know the code is written and that it works because I can change a single word in a configuration file and REBOOT, and video plays.
As a loyal ATI customer, it's unrealistic to keep telling me why it won't work. You people make the cards and you CAN write a driver that WILL drive it under any operating system. You've proven you are capable. Is "intellectual property" so important you'll sacrifice your potential customer base?
Are we human beings living together on a planet as a society of individuals, or are we intellectual enemies in a no-holds-barred fight to the death?
IMHO, Vista was a massive error on the part of microsoft. From this day forward Microsoft goes downhill. It may take a while but it's going to happen. Historically all dishonest corporations self destruct, eventually. and microsoft is no exception.
When money becomes an end, the end of money is near... and revolutions borne of time and disgust leap forth in adoration of future freedoms.
-Tom
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First of all I want to say that I do appreciate all the effort of the people doing the open source drivers, and I also do appreciate that AMD is trying to support linux. But I have to agree with the general thrust of the previous message. I just put together a home theater system based on an x2 5000+ and an ATI 690 based motherboard.
I have tried running both the open source and ATI drivers under Gutsy and neither presents anything like satisfactory results. Really bad video tearing, horrible pixelation when increasing window size for video and the whole screen flashing pink/green for a variable amount of time whenever I start a video. And even though my monitor identifies the signal as 1080P it only fills about 90% of the actual screen so text etc. looks horrible as the 1920x1080 image is scaled down into a display grid of about 1800x1000 physical pixels.
Not to mention the difficulty switching back and forth between trying out the open and proprietary drivers (no novice is going to get more than 5 seconds into that process before giving up.
So I switched to an old copy of Win2KSP4 I had. Video tearing gone. Pink/green flashing gone. Smooth interpolation when maxing the video window. Yayyyy!
But things are not perfect on the Windows side either. The problem of a 1080P image only filling 90% of the monitor still happens, and has been reported by more than a few others on the net. Plus there don't seem to be Catalyst drivers for Win2K for the 690/X1250 so I have no way of adjusting anything, in particular the antialiasing or making the display size fit the physical screen (I know, PowerStrip... that's my next try).
This is exactly the sort of experience that is going to drive users away from Linux and to windows. And given that the 90% screen reduction on windows I'm not all that happy with AMD/ATI on windows either - I mean the 690 has been out for a long time now....
I wanted to switch all our machines to the same OS and for that to be Linux but that isn't possible so after a few days time wasted I'm more or less forced back to Windows and am dubious about buying another AMD system/card for graphics since it doesn't seem to really work right even in Windows.
Anyway that's my rant...
Originally posted by siggma View PostA bold comment?
Um, is there an ATI representative listening.
I own an ATI X1650 256 DDR2 PCIe card that performs flawlessly under Vista, but I despise VISTA, and Microsoft, so it's Linux.
BUT! I still cannot play video using the hardware and run compiz at the same time in any linux distribution using this card. It's been on the market for over a year now. What's UP?
Let's sum up the issue, from a user point of view. How you see it may be different but users are the one's spending the money.- Radeon
- RadeonHD
- ATI
- FGLRX
- AVIVO
Why not just spend an afternoon and make ONE work like it should? We know the code is written and that it works because I can change a single word in a configuration file and REBOOT, and video plays.
As a loyal ATI customer, it's unrealistic to keep telling me why it won't work. You people make the cards and you CAN write a driver that WILL drive it under any operating system. You've proven you are capable. Is "intellectual property" so important you'll sacrifice your potential customer base?
Are we human beings living together on a planet as a society of individuals, or are we intellectual enemies in a no-holds-barred fight to the death?
IMHO, Vista was a massive error on the part of microsoft. From this day forward Microsoft goes downhill. It may take a while but it's going to happen. Historically all dishonest corporations self destruct, eventually. and microsoft is no exception.
When money becomes an end, the end of money is near... and revolutions borne of time and disgust leap forth in adoration of future freedoms.
-Tom
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Originally posted by siggma View PostA bold comment?
Um, is there an ATI representative listening.
I own an ATI X1650 256 DDR2 PCIe card that performs flawlessly under Vista, but I despise VISTA, and Microsoft, so it's Linux.
BUT! I still cannot play video using the hardware and run compiz at the same time in any linux distribution using this card. It's been on the market for over a year now. What's UP?
Let's sum up the issue, from a user point of view. How you see it may be different but users are the one's spending the money.- Radeon
- RadeonHD
- ATI
- FGLRX
- AVIVO
Why not just spend an afternoon and make ONE work like it should? We know the code is written and that it works because I can change a single word in a configuration file and REBOOT, and video plays.
As a loyal ATI customer, it's unrealistic to keep telling me why it won't work. You people make the cards and you CAN write a driver that WILL drive it under any operating system. You've proven you are capable. Is "intellectual property" so important you'll sacrifice your potential customer base?
Are we human beings living together on a planet as a society of individuals, or are we intellectual enemies in a no-holds-barred fight to the death?
IMHO, Vista was a massive error on the part of microsoft. From this day forward Microsoft goes downhill. It may take a while but it's going to happen. Historically all dishonest corporations self destruct, eventually. and microsoft is no exception.
When money becomes an end, the end of money is near... and revolutions borne of time and disgust leap forth in adoration of future freedoms.
-Tom
As for not being able to play videos while Compiz is on, make sure you are using plain ol' X to render the videos. It has already been explained that the xserver has a severe limitation when it comes to the whole direct/indirect rendering thing when you throw accelerated desktops in the mix... it's not a driver limitation.
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Originally posted by Melcar View PostIn the Linux world hardly anything is as consolidated as in the Windows world. Personally, I like the fact that we have the option of using several different drivers for our cards.; it gives us (the end user) more choice.
As for not being able to play videos while Compiz is on, make sure you are using plain ol' X to render the videos. It has already been explained that the xserver has a severe limitation when it comes to the whole direct/indirect rendering thing when you throw accelerated desktops in the mix... it's not a driver limitation.
I'm willing to bet there are people at AMD/ATI with Linux on their desktops that playback video just fine. If I worked there and had an in depth understanding of the hardware, I'd have figured out a way to playback video without all that horrible tearing and crashing. This is not a hardware issue or an Xserver issue, it's a political issue.
Corporations used to fight their battles directly, face to face, with each other. Now they THINK they can offload that battle to the desktop of the user and point the finger. It's an opportunity to make a choice. Honesty choices lead to cooperation and working products. Dishonest choices and unreasonable expectations do not. Microsoft began the practice by encouraging a "cottage" industry of virus scanners and spyware stoppers with it's "push this button to install software" philosophy. That single button solution has now spread to other parts of society and become the very choice referenced above.
Bottom line is, we still don't have a usable solution. We keep hearing explanations but explanations don't play DVD's or my favourite episode of Star Trek.
Please ATI, just put all the code in ONE driver and release to the public on your web site so we can use the hardware we already paid for.
-Tom
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Originally posted by Melcar View PostIn the Linux world hardly anything is as consolidated as in the Windows world. Personally, I like the fact that we have the option of using several different drivers for our cards.; it gives us (the end user) more choice.
I'm all for open source, choice, and all those great things... right up to the point where it means I can't do what I need to do. Not to rant too much here but the whole choice thing carries with it the same whiff I get when someone complains about linux being difficult and is told how they should have known how to do this or that, or that it isn't the fault of linux but manufacturers, which while possibly technically true is a meaningless answer to the user, or whatever... this is a huge problem with linux acceptance.
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Originally posted by siggma View PostI own an ATI X1650 256 DDR2 PCIe card that performs flawlessly under Vista, but I despise VISTA, and Microsoft, so it's Linux.
BUT! I still cannot play video using the hardware and run compiz at the same time in any linux distribution using this card. It's been on the market for over a year now. What's UP?
Originally posted by siggma View PostLet's sum up the issue, from a user point of view. How you see it may be different but users are the one's spending the money.- Radeon
- RadeonHD
- ATI
- FGLRX
- AVIVO
The latest radeon code (from git) is worth trying since Alex recently added textured video support and Dave extended that to include R5xx and RS690. The radeonhd driver is mostly modesetting today but will start to pick up the same acceleration code in the next little while.
Originally posted by siggma View PostWhy not just spend an afternoon and make ONE work like it should? We know the code is written and that it works because I can change a single word in a configuration file and REBOOT, and video plays.Test signature
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