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Originally posted by r_a_trip View PostI, for one, choose to use AMD based systems. If it does what I need it to do, why not use AMD kit? Also, Intel needs competiton to keep them honest and pushing innovation.
So you will have to replace radeon with catalyst, forget about everything opensource and enjoy lovely bugs.
I choose Intel three times already, no regrets. Opensource the way its meant to be!
If AMD wants to compete with Intel, it would need
a) to hire 20-30 engineers dedicated to opensource driver that will actually start adding features instead of backporting them or accepting outside patches (what Intel calls "Intel Opensource Technology Center").
b) release power management documentation god damn it
c) fix poor 3D performance
Thats above is "if AMD wants", because Intel already has it covered.
Originally posted by newwen View PostOne more reason to support AMD and buy AMD graphic cards instead of Nvidia.
If you are opensource supporter, buy Intel. If you are not - buy nvidia.Last edited by brosis; 03 April 2013, 09:27 AM.
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Originally posted by r_a_trip View PostI, for one, choose to use AMD based systems. If it does what I need it to do, why not use AMD kit? Also, Intel needs competiton to keep them honest and pushing innovation.
Also important to consider is the fact that the 650M has been on the market for *over a year* and is being compared to something that is *not yet available*. So OMGWOW, intel will soon be able to perform kinda sorta almost as good with their **TOP END** chip as LAST YEAR's nvidia *MIDDLE OF THE ROAD MOBILE* chip.
Also, its being spanked severely by AMD.
Note that those results are REAL results on the HD4000 and 5800k, INTEL's CLAIM on the GT3 -- quite literally "twice" HD4000, and AMD's CLAIM on the 6800k. You can note that they're not even claiming to be CLOSE to the 5800k.
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Originally posted by bridgman View PostOK, so it's not just me being brain-dead and forgetting my password. Whew
I tried to update the page last night but couldn't get in either.
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Originally posted by droidhacker View PostNot to mention, the "M" in "650M" is for "Mobile".
Also important to consider is the fact that the 650M has been on the market for *over a year* and is being compared to something that is *not yet available*. So OMGWOW, intel will soon be able to perform kinda sorta almost as good with their **TOP END** chip as LAST YEAR's nvidia *MIDDLE OF THE ROAD MOBILE* chip.
Also, its being spanked severely by AMD.
Note that those results are REAL results on the HD4000 and 5800k, INTEL's CLAIM on the GT3 -- quite literally "twice" HD4000, and AMD's CLAIM on the 6800k. You can note that they're not even claiming to be CLOSE to the 5800k.
Because AMD APU chips perform 5% of performance (as in twenty times slower) with opensource driver; and Intel chips perform 95% with opensource driver.Last edited by brosis; 03 April 2013, 09:44 AM.
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Originally posted by brosis View PostIntel burns your AMD system twofold. There is simply no competition.
So you will have to replace radeon with catalyst, forget about everything opensource and enjoy lovely bugs.
I choose Intel three times already, no regrets. Opensource the way its meant to be!
If AMD wants to compete with Intel, it would need
a) to hire 20-30 engineers dedicated to opensource driver that will actually start adding features instead of backporting them or accepting outside patches (what Intel calls "Intel Opensource Technology Center").
b) release power management documentation god damn it
c) fix poor 3D performance
Thats above is "if AMD wants", because Intel already has it covered.
You buy their cards to use it with pathetic driver, knowing that they actually only support catalyst which is pathetic closed source compared to closed source nvidia?
If you are opensource supporter, buy Intel. If you are not - buy nvidia.
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Originally posted by brosis View PostYou sure you compared your AMD chip using opensource drivers? Or was that on windows?
Because AMD APU chips perform 5% of performance (as in twenty times slower) with opensource driver; and Intel chips perform 95% with opensource driver.
Also, there's no such thing as "twenty times slower". "times" means multiply. You can't multiply "slowness".
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Originally posted by droidhacker View PostThat's absurd. The open source drivers are very close to the blobs. You're way behind the times.
Also, there's no such thing as "twenty times slower". "times" means multiply. You can't multiply "slowness".
They are in very few scenarios. In more cases then not they are usually much slower then their blob counterparts.
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Originally posted by droidhacker View PostThat's absurd. The open source drivers are very close to the blobs. You're way behind the times.
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