AMD's opensource lies exposed

[bridgman]

But this firmware it's not free, so is not included in any free GNU/Linux distribution, even Debian does not ship it anymore.

Sure, but it's not part of the drivers and it doesn't make the drivers any less free. Some GPU vendors burn the microcode into the chip, others load it at power-up.

If the microcode was burned into the chip so you couldn't see it being loaded, would that somehow make the drivers more free ?

[towo2099]

But this firmware it's not free, so is not included in any free GNU/Linux distribution, even Debian does not ship it anymore.

[bridgman]

Does anyone get the point, that completly free amd-graphics-drivers do not exist?
For propper work, they need firmware, which is not opensource, it's a binary blob in the kernel.

Actually no, it's a binary file whose contents are loaded into the hardware by free driver code in the kernel.

[glxextxexlg]

I'm off to play OpenArena and Doom3

Good luck shooting with 30 FPS you won't have much. Also try doom3 with an r500 card and see the 2-3 fps. BTW don't forget to visit unigine tropics and heaven with your r600 with open source drivers. Oh fglrx runs them? OK then have fun with your tearing or tripple buffer low memory choices and webgl-video accel supportlessness...

[towo2099]

Does anyone get the point, that completly free amd-graphics-drivers do not exist?
For propper work, they need firmware, which is not opensource, it's a binary blob in the kernel.

[pingufunkybeat]

I'm off to play OpenArena and Doom3 on the drivers which do not exist, because AMD didn't deliver specs, or fund their development

I'll wrap my head around the fact that they don't exist after I'm finished shooting.

See you later!

[bridgman]

Only a picture of yourself in a leopard print thong, posing with a midget, a donkey, and some chick dressed as Little Bo Peep.
*Pause*

Oh geez, not that picture again

The midget and the donkey were added after the picture was taken. If you look closely the shadows are wrong.

[not.sure]

squeeze is coming:

http://identi.ca/debian

(has AMD OSS drivers!)

[bridgman]

Here you are:

http://itknowledgeexchange.techtarget.com/enterprise-linux/amd-will-deliver-open-graphics-drivers/

http://www.osnews.com/story/17902/AM...aphics_Drivers

I'm not getting the "lies" part though. The OSNews link even has this on the same page :

http://www.osnews.com/story/24222/AMD_Releases_Radeon_HD_6000_Series_Open_Source_Support

It links back to Phoronix, of course, but still looking for what you consider to be a lie.

[amphigory]

BTW I've read 37 pages of thread and haven't found any actual AMD opensource lies yet, did I miss something juicy ?

Only a picture of yourself in a leopard print thong, posing with a midget, a donkey, and some chick dressed as Little Bo Peep.
*Pause*

OK. I'm going to do another git pull and rebuild Mesa now.