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Really? You're going to try to argue that it's better to use a driver because it's open source, even if it wont support the software you need to run?
After all, Linux doesn't run lots of software people need, including Internet Explorer and MS Office and Photoshop, but many people still prefer using Linux to using Windows, and stick to Firefox, OpenOffice.org and GIMP.
For me, the idea of suffering through a binary blob and all the upgrade headaches that brings, because of a game that I play once a month, is unattractive.
That's your choice so surely you can see the folly in recommending someone buy hardware that wont run the software they want to run.
But it's not terribly important anyway. For Wine gamer kids, nVidia is a better choice at the moment. For people needing VDPAU, it is also a better choice (and might remain so for quite some time).
Everybody else needs to evaluate their requirements -- what software they need to run, which features they need, how much they care about running an open source system, whether they want to financially support a company who refuses to release specs, etc, and make a decision.
Making a general statement such as "nVidia is better because it runs more software" is wrong IMHO. It does run more software. ATi gives you more freedom. Take your pick.
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Originally posted by mugginz View PostThat's your choice so surely you can see the folly in recommending someone buy hardware that wont run the software they want to run.
Originally posted by JimboI prefer ati a lot, the hardware is better for sure, on windows side the performance / power consuption is better. But on linux side software/drivers are not as good as nvidia, I think that my needs are not the same as you, I see you as a wine guy , so its important that you consider:
- wine has more problems.
- no video accel.
- and panix has said a good point too: compiz and/or 3D Desktop Effects might be a factor if you like that sort of thing.
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So you're asking me to do your work for you?
If you listed some examples, then it would be a useful piece of information. It would help people make decisions based on their specific requirements. If you mentioned it, you probably know of some examples, and are not simply making it up.
If you neither know of any examples, nor have experienced this firsthand, then it boils down to FUD.
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Originally posted by pingufunkybeat View PostReally? You're going to try to argue that it's better to use a driver because it's open source, even if it wont support the software you need to run?
After all, Linux doesn't run lots of software people need, including Internet Explorer and MS Office and Photoshop, but many people still prefer using Linux to using Windows, and stick to Firefox, OpenOffice.org and GIMP.
Well that might be OK for some people, but it's not for me when spending $500 on a graphics card and also a lot of other people as well. Especially when I can have the best of both worlds and not only run Linux, but also run the software that I want to run successfully as well.
Originally posted by pingufunkybeat View PostFor me, the idea of suffering through a binary blob and all the upgrade headaches that brings, because of a game that I play once a month, is unattractive.
Originally posted by pingufunkybeat View PostI've never recommended him to buy anything. I replied to a post going off about OSS fundies and how OSS is an unimportant consideration in general.
Originally posted by pingufunkybeat View PostBut it's not terribly important anyway. For Wine gamer kids, nVidia is a better choice at the moment. For people needing VDPAU, it is also a better choice (and might remain so for quite some time).
Originally posted by pingufunkybeat View PostEverybody else needs to evaluate their requirements -- what software they need to run, which features they need, how much they care about running an open source system, whether they want to financially support a company who refuses to release specs, etc, and make a decision.
Originally posted by pingufunkybeat View PostMaking a general statement such as "nVidia is better because it runs more software" is wrong IMHO. It does run more software. ATi gives you more freedom. Take your pick.
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Originally posted by Jimbo View PostThat's your choice so surely you can see the folly in recommending someone buy hardware that wont run the software they want to run.
Originally posted by dmrauss View PostHi! I've been researching for hardware to buy a new computer. As I only use Linux but never used any ATI graphic card and a friend of mine said a while ago the combination is by any means no good, I wondered if the scenario changed over the years. Searching on internet, found AMD website FAQ, which states that "ATI Proprietary Linux driver currently supports Radeon 8500 and later AGP or PCI Express graphics products" (http://ati.amd.com/products/catalyst/linux.html#2)
You, Linux users, owners of ATI cards, would you please tell if it's possible to do the combination Linux/ATI and still play performance demanding games (on wine and natively)?
I searched but couldn't find useful and **updated** material on internet. Most of material are from past 5 years!!
Thanks in advance,
Rauss.
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