AMD Catalyst 9.11 For Linux Released

[Kano]

Well you need at least a nv gpu to crosscheck it is a fglrx problem

[tball]

@bridgman

Got it.
Will you care of bugs with a lot of wine fixme's and console spawn?
Or is there a specific way to get debugging informations?

[bridgman]

I don't remember seeing any OpenGL bug reports filed against newer extensions recently so not sure what the specific issues might be (which makes it hard to *fix* them)...

... but "yes the OpenGL support will continue to improve". Most of the 3D stack is shared across multiple OSes, so fixes made for one OS will usually benefit the other OSes.

[tball]

I have a question, mostly for the devs.

How much effort is putting into developing and stabilizing new opengl extensions? Well actually I'm satisfied with fglrx, but I have the impression that the more advanced opengl features is in a bad shape.

Right now there isn't any advanced opengl app in linux, besides maybe unigine and wine trying running advanced games. I just tried using fglrx with wine and I got a lot of games up and running. But some games, which should run ok cf. winehq.org, doesn't work / are slow or have graphic artifacts.

Well I went in #winehq asking why fglrx didn't like wine or vice-versa. A wine direct3d developer said, that fglrx still have a lot of bugs in the more advanced opengl areas. But it should actually support wine as good as nvidia, but the support is just buggy. He told me that the more advanced windows apps makes wine trying to call advanced opengl code-paths. Those advance code path is very buggy on fglrx still. Though he noted that the fglrx driver has improved very much lately.

So will there be more in stabilizing and optimizing the opengl stack?

[cutterjohn]

Just to add in something semi-trivial, that appearance of black rectangle corruption seems to be gone now, and now that I think of it may have been an X.org bug(or some layer thereof) exposed as IIRC it disappeared when I switched to Ubuntu 9.10.

I went back and checked over my installation, and it's "clean" barring what I installed locally, so that mplayer flakiness must be OOB, but it only seems to occur when I'm interacting with the UI, e.g. mucking around in the prefs while playing videos it doesn't crash, or at least it hasn't on me but I don't watch many or long videos, or I skip through them. (Mainly looking to see some particular effect or other, or a piece of info from something that's only in video.)

[EDIT]
I'd been earlier using the official catalyst 9.10 release rather than the earlier drop provided for Ubuntu since I was upgrading from a previously installed system... plus last I messed with Ubuntu's fscked way of installing proprietary drivers it was a nightmare to get rid of them, or at least much more work than it should've been...

catalyst 9.10 also played video back fine for me, and must've been already set to Xv for mplayer, which is what I prefer to use.

[EDIT2] better put in catalyst before 9.10 so as not to accidentally confuse it with Ubuntu 9.10 ... [/EDIT2]
[/EDIT]

[chaos386]

You mean like this?

Yup, exactly like that. Here's a pastebin of the whole output for anyone curious. I'm running Catalyst 9.11 on 32-bit Ubuntu 9.10, but I had the same problem with the 9.10 beta included with Ubuntu and the drivers for use with the Stream SDK 2.0 beta4.

[cutterjohn]

I can't get Xv to work at all on my 5850, so consider yourself lucky...

xvinfo shows "ATI Radeon AVIVO Video" with 4 ports, and gstreamer-properties can do the Xv test playback *once*, but if I try to watch a video in totem, MPlayer or VLC with xv, the video is all black, and then when I try the test playback in gstreamer-settings after this, it's black too.

You mean like this?

X-Video Extension version 2.2
screen #0
  Adaptor #0: "ATI Radeon AVIVO Video"
    number of ports: 4
    port base: 131
    operations supported: PutImage 
    supported visuals:
      depth 24, visualID 0x23
      depth 24, visualID 0x24
      depth 24, visualID 0x25
<snip>

[EDIT]oops forgot to use code tags instead of quote...[/EDIT]

I'll try playing a video using Xv, not sure what I've got it set to ATM but it's working fine although I don't watch very many videos.

4850 Mobility Radeon (512MB)

9.11 installed fine for me, Ubuntu 9.10 x86-64 although I've not really tested anything yet and will likely not bother trying compiz/beryl again as I find it to be more annoying than not, or at least with the last few releases...

[EDIT]
Hmmm... just went and checked mplayer, and it was already set to use Xv and has been working fine for me. Even "fullscreen" seemed to work ok, but I'll try some of the other options too I guess...

minor update, mplayer is being a little flakey, so apparently I need to ensure that there are not a few things left over from 9.04, plus I was also using the medibuntu packages...
[/EDIT]

[chaos386]

I have just upgrade to 9.11 driver.

But how long do I need to wait for a tear-free video play with xv output?

I can't get Xv to work at all on my 5850, so consider yourself lucky...

xvinfo shows "ATI Radeon AVIVO Video" with 4 ports, and gstreamer-properties can do the Xv test playback *once*, but if I try to watch a video in totem, MPlayer or VLC with xv, the video is all black, and then when I try the test playback in gstreamer-settings after this, it's black too.

[Kano]

Till you buy a nvidia card or use the oss driver. xv is not for workstation users, didn't you know that? That's stupid as tools like LinDVD only work with xv, but ATI has it's own logic.

[cheung]

I have just upgrade to 9.11 driver.

But how long do I need to wait for a tear-free video play with xv output?