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Originally posted by ObiWan View PostUbuntu just needs to use a patched kernel that still exports find_task_by_vpid
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Originally posted by nanonyme View PostMaybe... Doing that would give an interesting sign to the rest of the community though. As in, that distro maintainers can override kernel developers' decisions on kernel development. (strictly speaking this already happened at least once, eg Debian vs radeon microcode)
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Originally posted by BlackStar View PostWhat? Distro maintainers have been patching and modifying the kernel forever - that's their job!
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Originally posted by nanonyme View PostIt most definitely isn't the job of distro maintainers to have an opinion on where kernel development should head. If it was, they should be kernel developers. Fixing bugs is one thing to but re-exporting symbols means they disagree with where Linux kernel developers think the kernel should be going. I'm not sure I consider that a very good sign.
It's the maintainer's job to smooth things over and make sure the distro will work for the largest amount of users. This might involve mean patching the kernel (all distros); it might involve pulling out-of-tree branches (Fedora, I'm looking at you); it most certainly doesn't mean sitting back and enjoying the carnage when widely-used software stops working for one reason or another.
I don't see this as a bad thing. The maintainer frees the kernel devs from the burden of supporting legacy software. Sooner or later, the legacy software will either be upgraded or it will become too costly to maintain and will be dropped (see Arch and fglrx).
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Originally posted by nanonyme View PostIt most definitely isn't the job of distro maintainers to have an opinion on where kernel development should head. If it was, they should be kernel developers. Fixing bugs is one thing to but re-exporting symbols means they disagree with where Linux kernel developers think the kernel should be going. I'm not sure I consider that a very good sign.
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Originally posted by nanonyme View PostThat note about the primitive restart sounds a bit funky. If that list of extensions actually is getting in as new stuff and they get the support for two new Linux versions, I'd probably be impressed if I still used the closed drivers.
I'll definitely be looking forward to the glsl 1.40 support.
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