Originally posted by johnc
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That might actually mean something if NVidia was providing documentation and assisting with Nouveau and Mesa development. -
Sure, I agree. But nVidia can also afford to hire a couple of guys to work on Nouveau or simply release the source code for their binary driver, or at least hire a couple of guys to write proper documentation for the open source community. How about hiring a couple of guys to implement what's required to support Wayland or DRI_PRIME in their binary driver?Originally posted by johnc View PostLeave a comment:
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I don't care about source code I care about a working product.Originally posted by sarmad View Post
Intel has enough money to make Solomon look like a pauper, I think they can afford to hire a couple guys to provide full support for their products and still have zillions left over in the bank, rather than relying on hand-outs from the "community". What they're doing now is giving out the impression that they are cheap, do not support their products, do not care about quality and do not care about their customers.
It's not just their GPUs either, even after they found that cpufreq / pstates were fundamentally broken they didn't backport any fixes to older architectures.
In terms of software this is basically a third-rate company.
And with their latest TSX debacle maybe they're not so good at hardware either.Leave a comment:
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Well thats nice but how do I actually activate the extension? I've installed latest mesa git and tweaked the gl version override:
but there is no GL_EXT_gpu_shader4 or GL_EXT_geometry_shader4 extension on neither my SNB box nor on my Haswell Laptop.Code:MESA_GL_VERSION_OVERRIDE=3.2 MESA_GLSL_VERSION_OVERRIDE=150
this is all glxinfo spits out:
Any idea what I'm missing???Code:name of display: :0 display: :0 screen: 0 direct rendering: Yes server glx vendor string: SGI server glx version string: 1.4 server glx extensions: GLX_ARB_create_context, GLX_ARB_create_context_profile, GLX_ARB_create_context_robustness, GLX_ARB_fbconfig_float, GLX_ARB_framebuffer_sRGB, GLX_ARB_multisample, GLX_EXT_create_context_es2_profile, GLX_EXT_framebuffer_sRGB, GLX_EXT_import_context, GLX_EXT_texture_from_pixmap, GLX_EXT_visual_info, GLX_EXT_visual_rating, GLX_INTEL_swap_event, GLX_MESA_copy_sub_buffer, GLX_OML_swap_method, GLX_SGIS_multisample, GLX_SGIX_fbconfig, GLX_SGIX_pbuffer, GLX_SGIX_visual_select_group, GLX_SGI_swap_control client glx vendor string: Mesa Project and SGI client glx version string: 1.4 client glx extensions: GLX_ARB_create_context, GLX_ARB_create_context_profile, GLX_ARB_create_context_robustness, GLX_ARB_fbconfig_float, GLX_ARB_framebuffer_sRGB, GLX_ARB_get_proc_address, GLX_ARB_multisample, GLX_EXT_buffer_age, GLX_EXT_create_context_es2_profile, GLX_EXT_fbconfig_packed_float, GLX_EXT_framebuffer_sRGB, GLX_EXT_import_context, GLX_EXT_texture_from_pixmap, GLX_EXT_visual_info, GLX_EXT_visual_rating, GLX_INTEL_swap_event, GLX_MESA_copy_sub_buffer, GLX_MESA_multithread_makecurrent, GLX_MESA_query_renderer, GLX_MESA_swap_control, GLX_OML_swap_method, GLX_OML_sync_control, GLX_SGIS_multisample, GLX_SGIX_fbconfig, GLX_SGIX_pbuffer, GLX_SGIX_visual_select_group, GLX_SGI_make_current_read, GLX_SGI_swap_control, GLX_SGI_video_sync GLX version: 1.4 GLX extensions: GLX_ARB_create_context, GLX_ARB_create_context_profile, GLX_ARB_create_context_robustness, GLX_ARB_fbconfig_float, GLX_ARB_framebuffer_sRGB, GLX_ARB_get_proc_address, GLX_ARB_multisample, GLX_EXT_buffer_age, GLX_EXT_create_context_es2_profile, GLX_EXT_framebuffer_sRGB, GLX_EXT_import_context, GLX_EXT_texture_from_pixmap, GLX_EXT_visual_info, GLX_EXT_visual_rating, GLX_INTEL_swap_event, GLX_MESA_copy_sub_buffer, GLX_MESA_multithread_makecurrent, GLX_MESA_query_renderer, GLX_MESA_swap_control, GLX_OML_swap_method, GLX_OML_sync_control, GLX_SGIS_multisample, GLX_SGIX_fbconfig, GLX_SGIX_pbuffer, GLX_SGIX_visual_select_group, GLX_SGI_make_current_read, GLX_SGI_swap_control, GLX_SGI_video_sync OpenGL vendor string: Intel Open Source Technology Center OpenGL renderer string: Mesa DRI Intel(R) Haswell Mobile OpenGL core profile version string: 3.2 (Core Profile) Mesa 10.3.0-devel (git-088106f) OpenGL core profile shading language version string: 1.50 OpenGL core profile context flags: (none) OpenGL core profile profile mask: core profile OpenGL core profile extensions: GL_3DFX_texture_compression_FXT1, GL_AMD_conservative_depth, GL_AMD_draw_buffers_blend, GL_AMD_seamless_cubemap_per_texture, GL_AMD_shader_trinary_minmax, GL_AMD_vertex_shader_layer, GL_AMD_vertex_shader_viewport_index, GL_ANGLE_texture_compression_dxt3, GL_ANGLE_texture_compression_dxt5, GL_APPLE_object_purgeable, GL_ARB_ES2_compatibility, GL_ARB_ES3_compatibility, GL_ARB_base_instance, GL_ARB_blend_func_extended, GL_ARB_buffer_storage, GL_ARB_clear_buffer_object, GL_ARB_clear_texture, GL_ARB_compressed_texture_pixel_storage, GL_ARB_conservative_depth, GL_ARB_copy_buffer, GL_ARB_copy_image, GL_ARB_debug_output, GL_ARB_depth_buffer_float, GL_ARB_depth_clamp, GL_ARB_draw_buffers, GL_ARB_draw_buffers_blend, GL_ARB_draw_elements_base_vertex, GL_ARB_draw_instanced, GL_ARB_explicit_attrib_location, GL_ARB_explicit_uniform_location, GL_ARB_fragment_coord_conventions, GL_ARB_fragment_shader, GL_ARB_framebuffer_object, GL_ARB_framebuffer_sRGB, GL_ARB_get_program_binary, GL_ARB_half_float_pixel, GL_ARB_half_float_vertex, GL_ARB_instanced_arrays, GL_ARB_internalformat_query, GL_ARB_invalidate_subdata, GL_ARB_map_buffer_alignment, GL_ARB_map_buffer_range, GL_ARB_multi_bind, GL_ARB_occlusion_query2, GL_ARB_pixel_buffer_object, GL_ARB_point_sprite, GL_ARB_provoking_vertex, GL_ARB_robustness, GL_ARB_sample_shading, GL_ARB_sampler_objects, GL_ARB_seamless_cube_map, GL_ARB_seamless_cubemap_per_texture, GL_ARB_separate_shader_objects, GL_ARB_shader_atomic_counters, GL_ARB_shader_bit_encoding, GL_ARB_shader_objects, GL_ARB_shader_texture_lod, GL_ARB_shading_language_420pack, GL_ARB_shading_language_packing, GL_ARB_sync, GL_ARB_texture_buffer_object, GL_ARB_texture_buffer_object_rgb32, GL_ARB_texture_buffer_range, GL_ARB_texture_compression_bptc, GL_ARB_texture_compression_rgtc, GL_ARB_texture_cube_map_array, GL_ARB_texture_float, GL_ARB_texture_gather, GL_ARB_texture_mirror_clamp_to_edge, GL_ARB_texture_multisample, GL_ARB_texture_non_power_of_two, GL_ARB_texture_query_levels, GL_ARB_texture_query_lod, GL_ARB_texture_rectangle, GL_ARB_texture_rg, GL_ARB_texture_rgb10_a2ui, GL_ARB_texture_storage, GL_ARB_texture_storage_multisample, GL_ARB_texture_swizzle, GL_ARB_texture_view, GL_ARB_timer_query, GL_ARB_uniform_buffer_object, GL_ARB_vertex_array_bgra, GL_ARB_vertex_array_object, GL_ARB_vertex_attrib_binding, GL_ARB_vertex_shader, GL_ARB_vertex_type_10f_11f_11f_rev, GL_ARB_vertex_type_2_10_10_10_rev, GL_ARB_viewport_array, GL_ATI_blend_equation_separate, GL_ATI_texture_float, GL_EXT_abgr, GL_EXT_blend_equation_separate, GL_EXT_draw_buffers2, GL_EXT_draw_instanced, GL_EXT_framebuffer_blit, GL_EXT_framebuffer_multisample, GL_EXT_framebuffer_multisample_blit_scaled, GL_EXT_framebuffer_sRGB, GL_EXT_packed_depth_stencil, GL_EXT_packed_float, GL_EXT_pixel_buffer_object, GL_EXT_provoking_vertex, GL_EXT_shader_integer_mix, GL_EXT_texture_array, GL_EXT_texture_compression_dxt1, GL_EXT_texture_compression_rgtc, GL_EXT_texture_compression_s3tc, GL_EXT_texture_filter_anisotropic, GL_EXT_texture_integer, GL_EXT_texture_sRGB, GL_EXT_texture_sRGB_decode, GL_EXT_texture_shared_exponent, GL_EXT_texture_snorm, GL_EXT_texture_swizzle, GL_EXT_timer_query, GL_EXT_transform_feedback, GL_EXT_vertex_array_bgra, GL_IBM_multimode_draw_arrays, GL_KHR_debug, GL_MESA_pack_invert, 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Funny how Intel supports Mesa, but doesn't completely support its own products, isn't it? Anyway, this clearly shows the advantages of open source development...
Also, lol @ nVidiaLeave a comment:
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That's great support from nVidia, but sorry, Intel is still better at supporting its customers because it gives the source code to the community. I think the reason why Intel's GPU support isn't lasting long is because Intel is still playing catch-up when it comes to graphics so they have to move at a pace faster than competition. I think once they catch up their products will be supported for periods similar to competition.Originally posted by johnc View Post
Also, nVidia has a head start when it comes to OpenGL. I bet Intel GPUs will be ahead of competition in supporting the new API from Khronos.Leave a comment:
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