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  • #11
    Don’t get fooled by this scam chart, the range is tweaked to cheat perception. Ridiculous…

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    • #12
      Are nVidia Graphics still relevant?

      It seems a dead GPU platform to me, plus a total disaster from a hardware and software perspective.

      Please correct me if I'm wrong.

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      • #13
        Originally posted by andyprough View Post
        Are nVidia Graphics still relevant?

        It seems a dead GPU platform to me, plus a total disaster from a hardware and software perspective.

        Please correct me if I'm wrong.
        As an AMD fan, they're the most relevant. They've been working on an open source driver, don't have distribution limitations with their software like AMD, they have a (crappy) GUI, and their hardware usually has the best performance. Both Intel and AMD have the ability to compete for the best and put NVIDIA in last place, but Intel has to deal with their dGPU teething issues and AMD has to fix their software limitations for that to happen.

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        • #14
          Originally posted by skeevy420 View Post

          As an AMD fan, they're the most relevant. They've been working on an open source driver, don't have distribution limitations with their software like AMD, they have a (crappy) GUI, and their hardware usually has the best performance. Both Intel and AMD have the ability to compete for the best and put NVIDIA in last place, but Intel has to deal with their dGPU teething issues and AMD has to fix their software limitations for that to happen.
          I agree with many of your points.

          But the Open Source driver is overvalued. It still has issues. No plans to merge upstream. No community involvement. No collaboration with Nouveau.

          It seems they used GSP to hide things only and make this to make HTPC customers happier. No way for desktop, for example.

          Anyway, offtopic. Please don't summon up Nvidia trolls!

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          • #15
            Originally posted by timofonic View Post
            Are Arc Graphics still relevant?

            It seems a dead GPU platform to me, plus a total disaster from a hardware and software perspective.

            Please correct me if I'm wrong.
            It's unrealistic to expect early iterations of a new product o have no issues. It's also unrealistic to expect early iterations of a new product to be profitable.

            If Intel doesn't give up early, and instead continues pushing this platform forward it'll eventually be solid and will be popular among Linux users.

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            • #16
              Originally posted by sarmad View Post

              It's unrealistic to expect early iterations of a new product o have no issues. It's also unrealistic to expect early iterations of a new product to be profitable.

              If Intel doesn't give up early, and instead continues pushing this platform forward it'll eventually be solid and will be popular among Linux users.
              Right! I actually think that, all things considered, they made a pretty good first attempt. From benchmarks I've seen, it seems like the underlying architecture is pretty good but the driver isn't up to snuff. I also heard there's a hardware issue with their memory controller that they couldn't fix before launch.

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              • #17
                Originally posted by sarmad View Post

                It's unrealistic to expect early iterations of a new product o have no issues. It's also unrealistic to expect early iterations of a new product to be profitable.

                If Intel doesn't give up early, and instead continues pushing this platform forward it'll eventually be solid and will be popular among Linux users.
                Yeah, if only those asshats from intel wouldn't drop HuC support for alchemist in Xe driver.

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                • #18
                  Originally posted by timofonic View Post
                  Are Arc Graphics still relevant?

                  It seems a dead GPU platform to me, plus a total disaster from a hardware and software perspective.

                  Please correct me if I'm wrong.
                  why would it be? the arc graphics are honestly great. IMO the A750 is the best budget gpu you can get right now since it has excellent price to preformance, even if feature support is spotty. but of course it's a disaster, it's intel's first dgpu for mainstream, anyone who thought the first gen cards were going to be feature competitive, or a non buggy mess is a bloody idiot.

                  While I do have some disappointment with how sparse support wont be coming for a while, The actual quality and performance im getting out of the a380, has blown past reasonable expectations. I am using it as a secondary gpu accompanying my rx 580 (no rebar on thanks to ryzen 5 2600 windows but not an issue for me) but most intensive stuff I use, I use on Linux which ofc works with full bar size anyways.

                  I will for sure be looking at intel's next generation gpus for consideration when I need to upgrade to a higher preforming gpu. I am very happy with the A380 and don't plan on getting rid of it any time soon, Next generation gpus should have huc support on XE drivers (intel already explained that HUC loading on the first gen cards is way more complicated and would require special work to get working on XE) so for first gen cards, sparse support which has been put on hold is pretty much personally, my only major gripe and I have major gripes with both Nvidia and AMD. so IMO Intel has absolutely nailed it for their first generation cards.

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                  • #19
                    Originally posted by RejectModernity View Post

                    Yeah, if only those asshats from intel wouldn't drop HuC support for alchemist in Xe driver.
                    It was never added, and XE was never intended to be main driver for DG2. I915 is.

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                    • #20
                      Originally posted by timofonic View Post
                      Are Arc Graphics still relevant?

                      It seems a dead GPU platform to me, plus a total disaster from a hardware and software perspective.

                      Please correct me if I'm wrong.
                      I use it in my NAS for media encoding and it works really well.
                      I have hopes for the next generation. Maybe it will replace my current amd gpu

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