AMD Brings Back Semprons & Athlons With The 2014 AM1 Platform

[DanL]

I would imagine to support more I/O. The more logic you embed on a SoC the more dedicated pins with distinct functions you need on the package.

I think schmidtbag was complaining more about the naming of the socket than its existence. I have to concur. If you follow the pattern, then AM1 should have come before AM2 and used DDR memory. Usually, when the marketers try to confuse consumers, they do it to make their products look better. Coming out with an AM1 socket in 2014 is just retarded.

Once again, AMD needs to finish firing their entire marketing staff...

[zanny]

They say less than $40 but when you add power supply and chassis its much more.
Also its hard to come by small chassis and power supplies.

I wish they made a single-board computer with case and power supply.
Like Intel NUC.

I recently built a VESA mounted system with an i3 with this case: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16811129185

On sale its like $60, and can power almost any APU except the K series AMD parts.

[wizard69]

What I don't get is why AMD is making the AM1 socket. FM2 already has Semprons and I think Athlons too. There's already a socket AM2 and AM3 so what is AMD going to do for the next generation?

I would imagine to support more I/O. The more logic you embed on a SoC the more dedicated pins with distinct functions you need on the package. That is my guess anyways.

If AMD decides to release a Phenom series with 6-8 cores for this AM1 socket then I'm a little more open to it. But otherwise, if I'm going to go for a super cheap system, I'd rather get an A4 or A6.

It all depends upon what is important to you.

[wizard69]

They must focus on developing new CPU architecture(s), not introduce CPUs which cannot compete with Intel's cheapest Celerons.

The competition here is the ATOM line in case you missed it. That and Intel terrible GPUS. As such Kabini does very well. I wouldn't expect these chips to drive a high performance laptop of desktop but they would deliver very good results for lesser uses. Further is AMD came out with an embedded version I could see strong demand.

AMD's IPC performance absolutely sucks - they cannot even beat original Intel Core 2 CPUs which were released eight freaking years ago.

This chip isn't designed to compete with that platform. Besides you underestimate just how important GPUs are these days in delivering systems that feel good to the user. You need to realize that AMD has had considerable success competing against ATOM. This doesn't mean they don't need to fix their high performance architectures just that I really think you mis how important this segment is to AMD.

[Calinou]

My family would rather have an affordable mini pc that is power efficient. If Intel can supply that with AMD prices go right ahead. I would buy one for my father, mother and for the linux testing pc. 500+ euro is too much for a small pc where performance is not really important.

500 € is what you need for a low-end PC, but with a SSD and nice case/PSU. If you can do without a SSD and a nice case/PSU, you could build one for about 300 €.

AMD isn't cheaper than Intel these days, especially if you take power usage and other stuff (single thread performance) into account.

Why is a Nexus 7(which is fast enough) 250 euro and Brix 500+?

Nexus 7 is built in huge volumes, sold to lots of people, Brix targets a niche market. Also, the Brix is noisy and very hot.

[schmidtbag]

What I don't get is why AMD is making the AM1 socket. FM2 already has Semprons and I think Athlons too. There's already a socket AM2 and AM3 so what is AMD going to do for the next generation?

If AMD decides to release a Phenom series with 6-8 cores for this AM1 socket then I'm a little more open to it. But otherwise, if I'm going to go for a super cheap system, I'd rather get an A4 or A6.

[Ferdinand]

They must focus on developing new CPU architecture(s), not introduce CPUs which cannot compete with Intel's cheapest Celerons.

AMD's IPC performance absolutely sucks - they cannot even beat original Intel Core 2 CPUs which were released eight freaking years ago.

My family would rather have an affordable mini pc that is power efficient. If Intel can supply that with AMD prices go right ahead. I would buy one for my father, mother and for the linux testing pc. 500+ euro is too much for a small pc where performance is not really important. Why is a Nexus 7(which is fast enough) 250 euro and Brix 500+?

[uid313]

Need make a single-board computer

They say less than $40 but when you add power supply and chassis its much more.
Also its hard to come by small chassis and power supplies.

I wish they made a single-board computer with case and power supply.
Like Intel NUC.

[birdie]

They must focus on developing new CPU architecture(s), not introduce CPUs which cannot compete with Intel's cheapest Celerons.

AMD's IPC performance absolutely sucks - they cannot even beat original Intel Core 2 CPUs which were released eight freaking years ago.

[Ferdinand]

Could Gigabyte please make a cheap Brix version with this.