Disappointing power consumption numbers but at least it isn't less efficient than last gen. I don't think AMD needed to push this chip so hard - they could have dropped by a few hundred MHz while still staying on top and it would make a huge improvement on performance-per-watt.
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Originally posted by Anux View Post7000, AM5 and DDR5 will stay expensive for a long time.
I just want some ECC DDR5 UDIMMs. I know they exist, but they're still hard to find.
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Originally posted by jrch2k8 View Postalso power optimized 5000 series is better power wise as well.
Source: https://www.anandtech.com/show/17552...coming-sept-27
Originally posted by jrch2k8 View PostOnce AM5 mature and the used market dries up, sure that will be the way to go but for now, i'll wait until 8000 series since a node upgrade may solve the power draw/heat in the future while DDR5 cost should be more sane
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Originally posted by ddriver View PostLOL in saturated scenarios it approaches 2x the performance if intel's fastest.
I noticed a typo at the daw benchmark - the second one says 480000 hz. Also, testing on both 44.1 and 48 khz is pointless, what you should be doing instead is testing much smaller buffer sizes, cuz that's where cpus need to face real time requirements in audio scenarios.
You should try testing at like 128 samples buffer. That's what's used for real time recording, mixing and stuff is done at large buffer sizes because the latency is not an issue if you are not performing live.
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Originally posted by kozman View PostI had such high hopes for the die shrink and reduced micron process thinking "FINALLY! Heat output will go down." But by all acounts, it actually seems to have increased if I am reading some of these numbers right.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dennar...ng_around_2006
Originally posted by kozman View PostAnd while MSI is touting X670 and X670E boards with not chipset fan, I could swear I saw some X670E mobo maker with one on it. Please god, no. It would be the 2000s all over again.
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Originally posted by jrch2k8 View PostIn this iteration, sure AMD didn't get too creative with IPC uplift or core redesigns and since 12th gen had a nice uplift, they just went full brute force ahead like Intel hence i agree for that reason they need similar power budget.
AMD sure did do significant redesign and achieve a respectable IPC increase.
Source: https://www.anandtech.com/show/17552...coming-sept-27
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Cost-wise, sure. AM4+DDR4 is the better deal, if you don't need a lot of performance.
As for more power, most anytime you get more performance, you usually pay for that by using more power. Just the nature of the game. That's why you need a ratio metric of x performance per watt to give you a 'fair' power metric.Last edited by rclark; 26 September 2022, 02:34 PM.
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Originally posted by schmidtbag View PostDisappointing power consumption numbers but at least it isn't less efficient than last gen. I don't think AMD needed to push this chip so hard - they could have dropped by a few hundred MHz while still staying on top and it would make a huge improvement on performance-per-watt.
You know that if they held back, Intel's Special Edition 350 W extreme gamer boards* would juice Raptor Lake hard enough to take the crown. And that would deprive AMD of a well-deserved victory.
* I'm not even joking, here. 350 W.
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Originally posted by coder View PostLOL, wut?
AMD sure did do significant redesign and achieve a respectable IPC increase.
Source: https://www.anandtech.com/show/17552...coming-sept-27
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Originally posted by rclark View PostI doubt I'd notice much if any difference in day to day usage, between the 5900X and the 7900X. So other than 'bragging rights', I don't see why I should 'upgrade' .
Originally posted by rclark View PostAs for more power, most anytime you get more performance, you usually pay for that by using more power. Just the nature of the game.
AMD increased the power consumption of their platform to compete with Intel, but it wasn't strictly necessary just to deliver a performance improvement. And in spite of that, look closely at the power consumption graphs on the article's last page: the averages are the same since the previous gen!
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