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Originally posted by sophisticles View PostPeople in the U.S. have been complaining about the NSA, TSA and for decades.
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Originally posted by CochainComplex View Post
Can you explain me how the german "Wirtschaftswunder" is fitting into your equation. It has happend after WWII and with setting up a democratic system (again after Weimarer Republik - ended up in electing H.).
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Originally posted by pal666 View Postyou are free to cast your vote differently next time. it doesn't work with ussr or china
but are you sure? weren't the 2016 elections screwed up anyway to be in his favor? (see steele dossier)
("ussr"? i thought they already dissolved?)
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Originally posted by tildearrow View Postweren't the 2016 elections screwed up anyway to be in his favor? (see steele dossier)
Originally posted by tildearrow View Post("ussr"? i thought they already dissolved?)
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Originally posted by oleid View PostIt would seem you overreacted a little.
I'm from the deeply anti American country called Germany, by the way.
I'm not saying the one or the other secret service is better than the other. I'm saying that they are supposed to spy and that is what they do. And the US ones are even spying on their allies, as published by Snowden.
So obviously all the bad things you listed about the Chinese secret service doesn't affect me. I'm not traveling there and I'm not one of their citizens. Same goes for USA.
All I'm saying is that if I've to live with backdoors in my devices, I want European backdoors
Anyway, the next frontier for spyware is the hardware. I don't know whether this article is true: https://www.bloomberg.com/news/featu...-top-companies
But it definitely gives a taste of things to come. And an important thing about China is that it is highly unlikely to have whistleblowers like Snowden.
Europe's not going to have big tech any time soon. Remarkably, West Germany was a semiconductor leader in the early '70s. Downhill since. I honestly would be curious as to what happened in the '70s. Anyway, the climate right now is against big companies.
Dear old European Union, how is it hanging together ...
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