ASUS Will Take Over Intel's NUC Systems Line Moving Ahead

[coder]

Are you aware that much of Asia has outlawed Falungong? That it can only operate in the west only proves just what is so wrong with it.

and dissidents as a source of info about a country? Seriously, sit down and reevaluate your choice of information.

I'll agree with this much. As any good journalist would tell you, you should consider a source's motives. That doesn't mean anything or everything they say is wrong, but primary sources are rarely unbiased.

One funny thing about Russia is that, for a long time, the only Russians I knew were Jews. They were more motivated to leave than most, and so there was a wave of them emigrating to the USA in the late 80's and 90's. That totally skewed my perception of Russia, giving me the impression most Russians were like them, when they were actually a minority.

[Ramalama]

What's the point of even having any EFI updates for mini PCs if it doesn't bring new features like new CPU compatibility or CPU microcode, especially with the CPU soldered down???

And for the most part, these "crap" mini PCs are using EFI binaries from the likes of Aptio and AMI with practically little to no modification. You're not going to find such near-reference EFI implementations in any other big-name OEM mini PC.

Are you really asking that?
- didn't you learned anything with agesa? With all it's initial bugs?
- didn't you ever seen acpi bugs on intel cpus on linux bootups or dmesg related acpi table errors?
- did you never readed a proper bios changelog?

Intel nucs have maybe not that much options inside their bios, but they activate vt-d and everything else a user might need by default.
The NUCs have by faaaar the best working bios with no dmesg errors at all, when using linux on them. Especially Proxmox.
Nothing else comes even close.

I had a minis forums that i sended back, because they forgot to activate vt-d, so iommu wasn't working at all.
They did finally provided an bios updates for this, but almost 5 months later....
Glad god I've sended that crap back.


However, to anyone likings, if someone want to save 20usd and can live without bios updates, go for it.

I personally would never buy anything else anymore as NUCs, since nothing else ever worked that great with Proxmox.
Even a 3Nuc Cluster with 20gb/s FDX Thunderbolt 3/4 backend connection with Ceph, is something you could never do on anything else.

However, i just hope that Asus doesn't fuck it up.

[gotar]

China was the world's sole superpower and most advanced civilization for millennia with the Arabs and the Indians not far behind until it got stupid during the Qing, well before Western barbarians even knew what civilization was.

The East would have achieved every last bit of misappropriated Western "innovation" in its own time were it not for your fucking barbaric colonization.

You are probably forbidden to read this, but this is not west who put made you "stupid during Qing" and it's not the west to blame for communists. Negating any consequence of China demise is purely political fiction.

And this is not "my" colonization - I'm from Poland and we were under soviet occupation for half a century in 20th century, so we were the east (you know, the Warsaw pact - this is our capital city). And before that we were partitioned for 123 years by Prussia, Austria (west) and Russia (east), so I am well aware how you can fall behind when being opressed.

The key difference is that you did that to yourself, despite having 1000 years more of experience in "civilization" than we do (as you've mentioned).

So don't blame others for your own stupid choices and dumb leaders, you could have simply stand against "barbarians". Anyway, being beaten by some inferior tribes should be a shame for you, I cannot understand how anyone can make such excuses.

[abott]

Legit get lost you god damn communist clown.

They didn't say anything communist, it's authoritarian and just generally genocidal. You probably should be less spooked by any idea slightly socialistic, rofl. But WTF is this thread now.

All because some PC makers can't put the correct ports on things, wow. Speaking of which, I wish they would throw away more USB3 ports and add more USB2 ports. I can't even fully plug in the main USB3 bus because it doesn't have the bandwidth and everything breaks. Like, what the hell? My mouse, DAC, and monitor don't need any USB3 speeds, even if it could get there 100ns faster. That's why we have data buffers.

[Sonadow]

All because some PC makers can't put the correct ports on things, wow. Speaking of which, I wish they would throw away more USB3 ports and add more USB2 ports. I can't even fully plug in the main USB3 bus because it doesn't have the bandwidth and everything breaks. Like, what the hell? My mouse, DAC, and monitor don't need any USB3 speeds, even if it could get there 100ns faster. That's why we have data buffers.

Instead of more 2.0 ports I want proper specs to be enforced on USB 3.0 ports.

The number of times my USB 3.0 devices literally disappeared from the OS for no reason is extremely aggravating.

[Altair]

Does anybody have a suggestion for an affordable passively-cooled X86 board from a reputable vendor to replace Udoo X86 II? Udoo has Intel Pentium N3710, and I would like to have a more powerful home automation mini-computer that is still totally silent and has no moving parts.

[extremesquared]

Intel NUCs are pretty and solid with the high quality build, i hope the line continue.

Asus mini PCs are already there. The PN5x line specifically.

[coder]

Does anybody have a suggestion for an affordable passively-cooled X86 board from a reputable vendor to replace Udoo X86 II? Udoo has Intel Pentium N3710, and I would like to have a more powerful home automation mini-computer that is still totally silent and has no moving parts.

Ooo, these are nice!

https://up-board.org/up-squared-pro-7000/?ADLNBoard

LPDDR5 and in-band ECC, even! Only soldered-down, I think. They don't specify which CPU model(s) support in-band ECC, but I'd guess only the Atom x7425E.

[Ramalama]

Ooo, these are nice!

https://up-board.org/up-squared-pro-7000/?ADLNBoard

LPDDR5 and in-band ECC, even! Only soldered-down, I think. They don't specify which CPU model(s) support in-band ECC, but I'd guess only the Atom x7425E.

Intel® In-Band ECC* prevents data corruption without using ECC memory

Sounds like marketing bullshit.
How does it prevent corruption without detection? Or without reporting?

Sounds for me like the same story as with those people that believe that they don't need ecc memory, because they use DDR5 memory and it has inbuilt ECC xD
But can't explain then what RDIMM ECC DDR5 Modules are xD

Don't fall into that rabbit hole!

[coder]

Sounds like marketing bullshit.
How does it prevent corruption without detection? Or without reporting?

It's legit. It does carry tradeoffs, of course, such as reducing usable memory capacity and performance.

Here's a review of a different system with a different CPU, but the technology is discussed and benchmarked in some detail:

https://www.anandtech.com/show/18732...or-lakep-ecc/2

Very cool, IMO. Should've come along way sooner.