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  • #31
    Originally posted by torsionbar28 View Post

    ^ LMAO, someone's tin foil hat needs a little adjusting. This may come as a shock to you, but those tablets and communicators in the Star Trek series were stage props, not functional devices.
    You didn't get the joke. Pardon me for being mellow dramatic.
    Last edited by creative; 18 April 2017, 01:35 PM.
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    • #32
      Originally posted by stiiixy View Post
      Didn't naming schemes used to use the same major number, in this case by AMD 4, but add +1 or +10 etc to the second or third part of the number scheme to denote a simple revision instead of a technology upgrade?

      For example the nVidia GeForce 250 was refreshed as a 260, or revised to a 250GT.

      Or something along those lines. It got co fusing when the previous versions became the new versions and then there were new versions but it was mixed with previous versions.

      Its a preposterous situation right now for us mere GFX dabblers.
      No. The naming schemes have always been a massive, and please excuse my language, clusterfuck. A clusterfuck that's completely different for each company and changes probably every four or five years. So expect a different method of confusing customers to come Soon (TM).

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      • #33
        Originally posted by stiiixy View Post
        Didn't naming schemes used to use the same major number, in this case by AMD 4, but add +1 or +10 etc to the second or third part of the number scheme to denote a simple revision instead of a technology upgrade?
        no. new year, new series

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        • #34
          Originally posted by eydee View Post
          We may not like rebrands too much, but truth to be told, those who did not jump on the RX 400 hype train last year can see the new series as a better upgrade path. Slightly faster, bugs ironed out, same price (theoretically), mature drivers. If only there was a 590 too, matching performance of the 1070...
          Yeap, I'm indeed in that boat. Which is nice, and the prices should actually go down a bit compared to the original times too.

          And the 590 will be a Vega as far as I can tell.

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          • #35
            At least this launch pushed AMD today to release new AMDGPU-PRO driver Version 410326 now, instead of 401251 previously.

            To write sum of that 410326 one just in case, as Ubuntu package download was broken for some including me 2-3 days ago

            sha256sum e594a2850e637f333ed4d90f98e0ffd70eb9d66b704ec19bc7 a6340487e99c9b
            But can't be posted as quote , since forum add space on copy/paste between bc7_a63 but there is no space in reality of course Lets try code:

            Code:
            sha256sum e594a2850e637f333ed4d90f98e0ffd70eb9d66b704ec19bc7a6340487e99c9b
            And that works... quoting doing some shit on this vB obviosly i was expecting to be unapproved
            Last edited by dungeon; 18 April 2017, 05:16 PM.

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            • #36
              So much misinformation in this thread.

              The RX 5xx series is not Vega, yes. Vega is to come later and will probably feature something like HBM2. Even later there will be Navi, but that is still in the stars...

              But RX 5xx it is not entirely an up-clocked version of RX 4xx. It actually is an evolution of the Polaris series. The power consumption in idle, multi monitor and for most video watching should be much better. Also raw performance is improved.
              The German site "golem" stated that one can't just speak of a rebranding of old chip. It actually is evolved Si.

              https://www.golem.de/news/radeon-rx-...04-127204.html
              https://www.golem.de/news/grafikkart...04-127335.html

              According to Wikipedia at least RX 550 seems to be Polaris 12 and the big cards are supposed to be Polaris 20. RedeonFeature didn't have much info on the series yet (last time I checked).
              Acc. to the reviews RX 560 seems to be Polaris 21; RX 570 and 580 Polaris 20 and RX 550 Polaris 12.
              Probably drivers should still support it already if one runs a recent enough kernel / mesa / libdrm stack. Iirc. some PCI IDs were added months ago. The question is if the energy management functions need more driver code or if that of Polaris 11 (RX 460) can be reused.
              Last edited by Adarion; 18 April 2017, 05:45 PM.
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              • #37
                Originally posted by creative View Post
                You didn't get the joke. Pardon me for being mellow dramatic.
                Wow, yeah that flew right over me. I honestly thought you were being serious!

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                • #38
                  Originally posted by Adarion View Post
                  So much misinformation in this thread.
                  But RX 5xx it is not entirely an up-clocked version of RX 4xx. It actually is an evolution of the Polaris series. The power consumption in idle, multi monitor and for most video watching should be much better. Also raw performance is improved.
                  the fact that it is improved pp goes by itself, however the 580x also has higher tdp, sure you can say without a better pp you can't get the same w/hz on a 480x but it is still not really worthwhile in any case.
                  To put it into perspective, you can say the rx300 series had cards spanning gcn1 gcn2 gcn3 , while these cards are gcn4.1 gcn4.12 gcn4.21 .
                  These cards make sense only because of the close release of 14-5-600x ryzen so that ppl wanting a full midrange can get also some fresh cards. While vega will follow ryzen 1700x+ prices like 350-450-550 and dumping the classic 1k+ double-chip card sometime after the release of the HEDT ryzens

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                  • #39
                    Originally posted by torsionbar28 View Post
                    ^ LMAO, someone's tin foil hat needs a little adjusting. This may come as a shock to you, but those tablets and communicators in the Star Trek series were stage props, not functional devices.
                    Of course, that's not what he was saying. He was saying they were part of a massive work to create the need for such kind of devices, so companies that had the tech figured out already could eventually start selling them.
                    #jewconspiracy
                    #9/11wasanin-housejob
                    #pyramidspydamidseverywhere

                    It's actually the other way around.

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                    • #40
                      Originally posted by creative View Post
                      You know that clear glass technology thats popping up in movies like clear tablet computers and phones?
                      Yes. Those look like total garbage. I mean, I'd like the unused screen space on my laptop to be a window instead of displaying the desktop background at a coffee shop. But, there is no unused screen space, except maybe in between the panel widgets, and that space should stay as non-visually-noisy as possible.

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