I don't care what you point out
I was just thinking that you might be interpreting a typo (missing "maximum" in the post to which you were responding) as a lack of policy when Michael's statements suggested otherwise.
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Originally posted by bridgman View PostI believe Michael meant "the maximum rated frequencies for each particular CPU".
Respectable hardware review sites like TGH and AnandTech always report the frequencies of the parts.
All I'm saying here is that Michael seems to think a vague comment about a general policy is good enough for his viewers.
He has a lower standard. I am pointing it out. You are free to dislike that I am pointing it out, but it is a factual statement until Michael adopts a higher standard.
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I believe Michael meant "the maximum rated frequencies for each particular CPU".
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Originally posted by Michael View Post
It can always be assumed that the memory modules are of the rated frequencies for each particular CPU and using the given number of channels available. I've mentioned it before and can pretty much always be assumed that way unless explicitly otherwise mentioned. It's not displayed in each article due to dmidecode not working unless root. PTS will report said information when it's run as root, but not when it's run as a normal user, and not aware of any other way on Linux to obtain the RAM information outside of root dmidecode.
I'm sorry but this is just plain sloppy. Tell your visitors what exactly "of the rated frequencies for each particular CPU" actually means. It means anywhere from DDR3 1600 to 2400+. That's a massive amount. It will completely throw the results, but your professionalism doesn't drive you to control or report it. Interesting.Last edited by linuxgeex; 20 January 2017, 06:03 AM.
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Originally posted by linuxgeex View PostThis benchmark is fundamentally flawed in two ways.
First, from the get-go, the clocks and timings for the memory modules are not disclosed. IGP performance is directly proportional to the bandwidth of the memory modules, so omitting this information invalidates the benchmark immediately.
Second, the games tested are CPU-bound, not GPU-bound, so this isn't even a graphics performance benchmark. It's a CPU benchmark.
phoronix, Michael I am very disappointed, you are slipping.
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This benchmark is fundamentally flawed in two ways.
First, from the get-go, the clocks and timings for the memory modules are not disclosed. IGP performance is directly proportional to the bandwidth of the memory modules, so omitting this information invalidates the benchmark immediately.
Second, the games tested are CPU-bound, not GPU-bound, so this isn't even a graphics performance benchmark. It's a CPU benchmark.
phoronix, Michael I am very disappointed, you are slipping.Last edited by linuxgeex; 09 January 2017, 03:06 PM.
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Originally posted by atomsymbolNo. I meant the following: I did take a look at the Mesa source code and (by measurement) found a piece of code that is slow and appears to be optimizable.
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Ran the tests on my A10-7800, results here:
OpenBenchmarking.org, Phoronix Test Suite, Linux benchmarking, automated benchmarking, benchmarking results, benchmarking repository, open source benchmarking, benchmarking test profiles
I did thee runs: one with my default settings (all with DRI3):
- TearFree=on + 2Gb VRAM
- TearFree=off + 2Gb VRAM
- TearFree=off + 1Gb VRAM
Most results are a little slower (as expected), however Bioshock Infinite is quite a bit faster.
Software is not the same though, I'm on Debian testing. Could it be the lower OpenGL (4.5 vs 4.3) level? Otherwise something is fishy...
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AM4 boards should be available soon, I'm sure this will be much more interesting in a few months. It's likely they will send him some samples as they are trying to break back into the market in 2017, both on the consumer and enterprise side.
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