AMD Announces Navi 14 Based Radeon RX 5500 Series

[JMB9]

bridgman Is the Navi 14 (aka Radeon RX 5500) capable of 8k for desktop use? You pointed out that Navi is optimized for 4k and 8k, but nothing is given except FullHD like it would be a Polaris card of nearly 4 years ago. After product announcement I hope such basic info can be given?
What about the mobile version - is it a Navi APU for the desktop and if so - is it fully capable of 4k and 8k or is it a chipset limited version as Raven Ridge and its (too many) descendants?
Would be great to buy an AMD system this year - but without 8k my Haswell with iGPU would do the same job ... so I really hope these are cards/APUs to be still usable in 2020+.
And by the way - any hope to get Navi running 8k on Linux this year?

[Hibbelharry]

Maybe to be more competitive with the NVIDIA GTX 1600 series.. with low power consumption..?
Any way,
I think that the RX500 is a very nice peace of hardware, very good OpenCL 2.0, the problem is that is not a universal card( because it needs PCIe 3.0 atomic operations supported in the CPU and in the motherboard, to be compliant.. ).

This requirement in not good( PCIe 3.0 atomics.. ),
Maybe the RX 5500 series don't have that limitation..?

After all Nvidia cards are universal, you can trow a recent Nvidia card into a pcie 1.1/PCIe 2.0/PCIe 3.0 and it will work there, this is something very very valuable when people buy hardware, Nvidia got it right..
Sometimes you do have old machines around you, and if they work well, why should you be in need to change that..( some times they even make part of a bigger implementation, and you don't want to mess too much there, or you end in the need for a new set of projects with down times and losses, guaranteed.. )?!
right, you change the hardware that brakes( ..and here is were NVidia got it right.. ).

PCIe Atomics are available since Haswell on Intel (2013), Supporting 6 year old PCs is normally plenty enough, we're talking new hardware here.

PCIe Atomics are afaik available since Ryzen on AMD (2017). That's surely a lot less, but let's face it: AMD was really really lagging behind in that period. Like really really behind. Bulldozer never performed especially well. I think it's not really worthwhile relying on that old tech definitions, when you're doing hardware right now, so building chips for todays standards is just more sensible.

[MadeUpName]

AMD is claiming performance between the 580 and 590, with considerably better power efficiency than those cards.

With only 22 compute units vs 36 in 580 I have my doubts but we will see.

[smitty3268]

If , what would be the advantage over simply buying an RX 570 ? Will it be cheaper ? Run cooler ? Very curious as to what this card will bring to the table…

AMD is claiming performance between the 580 and 590, with considerably better power efficiency than those cards.

[tuke81]

Why are you saying RX 570, when amd's own slides tells it should be 12% faster than RX 480?

[tuxd3v]

If , what would be the advantage over simply buying an RX 570 ? Will it be cheaper ? Run cooler ? Very curious as to what this card will bring to the table…

Maybe to be more competitive with the NVIDIA GTX 1600 series.. with low power consumption..?
Any way,
I think that the RX500 is a very nice peace of hardware, very good OpenCL 2.0, the problem is that is not a universal card( because it needs PCIe 3.0 atomic operations supported in the CPU and in the motherboard, to be compliant.. ).

This requirement in not good( PCIe 3.0 atomics.. ),
Maybe the RX 5500 series don't have that limitation..?

After all Nvidia cards are universal, you can trow a recent Nvidia card into a pcie 1.1/PCIe 2.0/PCIe 3.0 and it will work there, this is something very very valuable when people buy hardware, Nvidia got it right..
Sometimes you do have old machines around you, and if they work well, why should you be in need to change that..( some times they even make part of a bigger implementation, and you don't want to mess too much there, or you end in the need for a new set of projects with down times and losses, guaranteed.. )?!
right, you change the hardware that brakes( ..and here is were NVidia got it right.. ).

[Neuro-Chef]

actually I’m hoping that the video decoder handles the latest standards. Will need to review the release information but this all alone can make Navi worthwhile.

Well, it most likely won't handle AV1, at least the RX 5700 (XT) does not.

And with only RX 570 like performance it should be a little bit cheaper.

[wizard69]

If , what would be the advantage over simply buying an RX 570 ? Will it be cheaper ? Run cooler ? Very curious as to what this card will bring to the table…

That is a really good question, hopefully we can get an in-depth review from Micheal. I especially would like to see comparisons of general workstation loads, engineering and science loads too. Of course we have to wait for software to catch up !!

off the top of my head though these should be true:

1. Lower power usage for a given performance.
2. Better video encode/decode hardware.
3. Compute is likely a wash.

actually I’m hoping that the video decoder handles the latest standards. Will need to review the release information but this all alone can make Navi worthwhile.

a bit of an update, the linked press release does nothing for me. There are few details and too much focus on 1080p. The releases seems to ignore that 4K is even a thing. Is AMD marketing out of touch again?

[Danny3]

Nice, but I hope they will release a version also with passive cooling that I can put in parents computers, because for their needs, (browsing, watching videos on Youtube or with Kodi) it will be great to have the GPU silent.

[tildearrow]

Typo:

AMD today lifted the lid on the Radeon RX 5500 series as their first Nav 14 based graphics card.