Originally posted by coder
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Not clocks - power. And you make it sound like it's a bad thing, when the point of it is for maximizing the CPU within the power and thermal capabilities of the system. I don't consider it foul play, unless they also advertised their system had no performance penalties relative to conventional cooling.
The whole reason you're arguing with me is because you suspect the performance numbers are being deliberately hidden. We already know that the CPU isn't running hot enough to thermal throttle below its base clocks (yeah I know, you don't agree with that), regardless of whether or not they lowered the PL1 wattage. So the PL1 wattage is not a factor to consider here.
You're clearly out of your depth. The point of them having a separate set of boost parameters is because the ability of a cooling solution to handle boost is somewhat separate from its capacity for sustained heat transfer.
My point was I shouldn't have to teach you science that the typical 10th grader should know.
The setting is there to be configured. I think it would be a legit thing to do.
Make up your mind.
This makes no sense.
This is really the core issue. You act as if there's only one fanless PC in the world. That people have a binary choice, do I go fanless or not? Totally ignoring that there are other fanless PCs and that someone might want performance data to help them decide which to buy. Even within the offerings of a single vendor, they might want data to help them decide if a higher-end model is worth the additional money. And, if they don't need it to be completely fanless, they might be willing to consider other low-noise options, especially if they were a cheaper and offered more performance.
The consequence of your position is that gaming PC reviews should not have acoustic noise or power consumption data, because gaming PCs are loud and burn a lot of power. And because they're a niche product and people should realize that they'll be louder and burn more power, that they shouldn't care about the specifics or have the ability to make an informed decision between various alternatives, even within the category.
Another consequence of your position is that sports car buyers shouldn't care about fuel mileage or cargo capacity, because they know those parameters will be worse and therefore must completely abandon any concerns other than performance and handling.
You live in a very strange universe, where people lack competitive alternatives and have only one single priority, to the exclusion of all else. Thankfully, this is not a world I recognize. I will leave you to inhabit this lonely world, bereft of non-overlapping categories and informed compromises.
I might know that in a vehicle of similar power and weight, I have trouble maintaining speed up a particularly steep road or that I have trouble merging from a dangerous on-ramp. Numbers can be used to help compare things, even if they're harder to use entirely in the abstract.
I understand that you don't care, because you seem to live in some kind of alternate reality.
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