Google Begins Allowing Rust Code For Developing Android

[phoronix]

Phoronix: Google Begins Allowing Rust Code For Developing Android

Not only is the Linux kernel moving to allow Rust code to be optionally used within the kernel, but Google is now allowing Rust code to be used for system programming work on Android's low-level operating system components too...

https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=Rust-For-Android-OS-System-Work

[uid313]

I hope they write all parsers and decoders in this code. Such as Exif, ID3, etc. Saudi Arabia hacked Jeff Bezos by sending a specially crafted video file on WhatsApp.

[bug77]

But, but "unstable ABI", "not standardized", "no gcc support", how will this work? /s

[jaypatelani]

Wish they picked ada

[bug77]

Wish they picked ada

Ada is more than 3 times older than Rust and hasn't reach a third of Rust's adoption. There must be a reason for that.

[Raka555]

Ada is more than 3 times older than Rust and hasn't reach a third of Rust's adoption. There must be a reason for that.

Ada did not have this https://enet4.github.io/rust-tropes/...-strike-force/

[Raka555]

Ada is more than 3 times older than Rust and hasn't reach a third of Rust's adoption. There must be a reason for that.

Ada did not have this: https://enet4.github.io/rust-tropes/...-strike-force/


Not a day goes by that I don't see some or other Rust propaganda somewhere.

[ssokolow]

Ada is more than 3 times older than Rust and hasn't reach a third of Rust's adoption. There must be a reason for that.

Two big reasons I'm aware of:

1. Ada's compilers were proprietary and expensive back in the beginning, while C compilers came free with UNIX.
2. Ada's safety guarantees are more focused on runtime checks (eg. constraining integer variables to programmer-defined ranges), making it more a middle-ground between Rust and Go as far as the amount of runtime support code you need.

Here's a post by an Ada user on the Rust users forum which goes into more detail.

Having extensively used both Rust and Ada, I find it difficult to see them as overlapping or fighting for the same niche. The two languages/communities put focus on very different things:

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[bug77]

Two big reasons I'm aware of:

1. Ada's compilers were proprietary and expensive back in the beginning, while C compilers came free with UNIX.
2. Ada's safety guarantees are more focused on runtime checks (eg. constraining integer variables to programmer-defined ranges), making it more a middle-ground between Rust and Go as far as the amount of runtime support code you need.

Here's a post by an Ada user on the Rust users forum which goes into more detail.

That's what I was hinting at: if they're aimed at different "niches" and Rust's "niche" is systems programming, Ada's "niche" must be something else.

Not that I have anything against Ada. Every language is great if you use it for its intended purpose and a nightmare if you use it outside of that.

[kloczek]

As long rust is possible to use only with cargo and meson or cmake and make do not support it natively rust is really messy to use and hard to integrate wiyth other stuff.