Hey, 'kraftman', aka 'OpenSLOWlaris', aka 'BSDSucksDicks', aka 'i386reaper', aka 'Linux Anals Solaris', etc... SUCK THAT!
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Not subscribing to this FUD-fest of a troll feast, so don't count on me coming back
But it seems that just about everyone has entirely missed the point of what Con Kolivas wrote (two and a half years ago, so someone is dragging through ancient history):
Now this would be a great time to take my comments out of context without reading on. The problem is that here was a scheduler that did exactly what I hate about what the Linux kernel scheduler is becoming. It's a monstrosity of epic proportions, and as far as an aircraft goes, it's like taking an Airbus A380 on a short joyride if you're running it on a desktop.
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So what do I think of it now? It looks like an excellent design for a completely different purpose. It's built like a commercial design for commercial purposes that have very different requirements than what most of us use Linux for, but it does appear to have been done so very well.
Kebbabert is taking it out of context, Pawlerson is falling for it and getting Con Kolivas's meaning backwards, and most of the other posters are just embarking on a trollfest that is related only to the operating systems involved.
But by all means, carry on! I'd love it if Kebbabert can keep some of the trolls occupied outside the potentially interesting threads.
~A Linux user who's gotten disgusted by certain fudsters who attempt to promote Linux and thereby make it less attractive.
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Originally posted by Ibidem View PostNot subscribing to this FUD-fest of a troll feast, so don't count on me coming back
But it seems that just about everyone has entirely missed the point of what Con Kolivas wrote (two and a half years ago, so someone is dragging through ancient history):
Basically, it's tidy, and thorough, but overly thorough to the point of bloat. You can write code well and still get bloat.
Kebbabert is taking it out of context, Pawlerson is falling for it and getting Con Kolivas's meaning backwards, and most of the other posters are just embarking on a trollfest that is related only to the operating systems involved.
But by all means, carry on! I'd love it if Kebbabert can keep some of the trolls occupied outside the potentially interesting threads.
~A Linux user who's gotten disgusted by certain fudsters who attempt to promote Linux and thereby make it less attractive.
So the Solaris code is much more than a casual user might need, but, as far as I know, Solaris is all about scaling. How'd it perform under the most demanding conditions, or in architectures from 20 years from now? Maybe it isn't so bloated after all if you think like this.
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Originally posted by Pawlerson View PostIt's enough to check server and HPC market share.
Originally posted by Pawlerson View PostThey were dominated by UNIX, but Linux has wiped them out. It's such simple. The same when comes to stock exchanges which are one of the most demanding and critical workloads.
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Originally posted by brosis View PostNo, Con is one of the best developers. He introduced BFS, that is much better scheduler for desktop systems. You don't want Linux on desktop?
That said, I think he is very competent so he must be correct on topic.
Also, remember that "better" is an enemy of "good". So in order to progress one must find weaknessess to be able to combat them.
This is why in this angle criticism is very good. You don't kick out developers for criticism - this way you will end up with a bunch of "agree" types that can't improve anything, because they agree that current state is always good.
Secondly, you should never assume that your opponent is completely flawed and retarded. I'm sure that there are great things about the solaris code. Lots of them. As well as bad things.
Not to say that Con isn't entitled to his views on the "neatness" of the solaris code, but one really has to wonder whether he was comparing it to the Linux code, or **his own**.Last edited by droidhacker; 06 May 2013, 08:57 AM.
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Originally posted by brosis View PostNo, Con is one of the best developers. He introduced BFS, that is much better scheduler for desktop systems. You don't want Linux on desktop?
That said, I think he is very competent so he must be correct on topic.
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Originally posted by ChrisXY View PostTo see what is popular, yes.
Yes, that's nice and all, but why does this cause this trolling?
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Originally posted by Sergio View PostHey, 'kraftman', aka 'OpenSLOWlaris', aka 'BSDSucksDicks', aka 'i386reaper', aka 'Linux Anals Solaris', etc... SUCK THAT!
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Originally posted by Pawlerson View PostNot true at all. Linux on desktop is actually using CFS. I remember Con's scheduler in the past and it was disaster. 3D games were unplayable and sound has stuttered a lot. Afaik CFS was introduced in 2.6.23 and it has changed my desktop experience.
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