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Originally posted by Honton View PostNon-free contributor agreements are the worst offenders. Do away with those and you have sovled 90% of the problem.
Ubuntu did not invent Linux but it certainly managed to get the most attention. The non-free problems will slowly get solved as FOSS gets more attention in the hardware vendor's eye. As for Mir and Unity? Nobody forces you to use any of them.
I'm getting tired of Ubuntu bashing. Just like I am with all the Stallman/GNU bashing. Don't like it, don't use it, stop whining. Use whatever the hell you want, modify it in whatever way you want and shut up.
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Originally posted by schmidtbag View PostIt shouldn't take $50 million to do that because a lot of the research is already done.
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Originally posted by matzipan View PostI'm getting tired of Ubuntu bashing. Just like I am with all the Stallman/GNU bashing. Don't like it, don't use it, stop whining. Use whatever the hell you want, modify it in whatever way you want and shut up.
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Originally posted by bkor View PostDeveloping Mir has an impact on a lot of projects. Shut up is terribly easy. It does impact me and the entire project I contribute to (GNOME). So I consider it a really bad decision. Seems that opinion is not unique. Don't like reading it? I think summarizing criticism as "bashing" is stupid. Deal with it.
I am personally glad it's not going to use any GDE components anymore, especially the incredibly buggy nm-applet, which crashes everytime I try to use it (hourly). Last time I asked for a feature in the bluetooth-applet to change the recieve file flow to something like Windows currently does, I was being looked down upon from some tight-assed GNOME developer.
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Originally posted by Honton View PostThat is the problem with non-free contributor agreements. Those who owns the projects with will not stop the duplication. Why does OO still exist? Why does upstart still exist? Why was MIR created? Because of the non-free contributor agreements. Better altermatives do exist. But those who own the non-free project prefer to keep demanding non-free contributor agreements to be signed.
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Originally posted by matzipan View PostIf GNOME doesn't want to support Mir, fine, it doesn't have to... It can just run fine over Wayland or XMir. If you mean Unity 8 isn't based on GDE anymore, I don't see any problem with that either. I can't possibly see any way this affects GNOME directly.
And this does NOT relate to what Unity 8 is based on.
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Originally posted by Honton View PostThe future cost of not using systemd and maintaining Upstart is so high it can only be justified by keeping Upstart under an non-free contributor agreement. If Upstart was free to the same level as systemd, it would have no value to Canonical.
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