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Originally posted by dee. View PostBut yeah, a Wayland phone would probably be hella popular. Too bad no one's making one so we'll never know... oh wait. http://phoronix.com/forums/showthrea...red-By-Wayland
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Originally posted by chrisb View PostHella popular... Yeah, maybe there really are millions of hard core Linux enthusiasts out there who base their choice of phone on the display server that it comes with...
I've said it a dozen time already, but if you target a population as your market, only the characteristics of this population count.
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Is it likely that Mark himself, through a company, will buy the rest of the phones in the last minute? He has to chip in almost $20M on his own, risking of sitting with a huge unsold inventory of phones that still does not exist. On the other hand he will receive those $12M already paid/donated, which he otherwise has to wave goodbye to.
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Originally posted by Loranga View PostIs it likely that Mark himself, through a company, will buy the rest of the phones in the last minute? He has to chip in almost $20M on his own, risking of sitting with a huge unsold inventory of phones that still does not exist. On the other hand he will receive those $12M already paid/donated, which he otherwise has to wave goodbye to.Last edited by blackout23; 21 August 2013, 07:06 AM.
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Originally posted by LinuxGamer View Post
Anyone who is anyone that reads ZDnet knows that this guy is beyond a Linux fanatic. He is the very definition of what it means to NOT help Linux grow in any way or form.
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Originally posted by erendorn View PostNope, but this is mostly because there aren't millions of Linux enthusiasts. Among those Linux enthusiast, the proportion who base their choice of phone on the Mir debacle is not negligible anymore.
I've said it a dozen time already, but if you target a population as your market, only the characteristics of this population count.
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Originally posted by chrisb View PostProve it. If you are right that this campaign failed because Ubuntu is using Mir, then you can set up a "Wayland phone" Indiegogo campaign and raise $32 million. Just copy the Edge campaign but say that you will use Wayland instead of Mir. Should be easy. Obviously there are 50,000 fans who would fund a Wayland phone but not a Mir phone.
In between is for the weak.
What don't you get in "a portion of users", or "not negligible"?
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Originally posted by erendorn View PostAh yes. Either it had zero impact, or it's the only thing that counted.
In between is for the weak.
What don't you get in "a portion of users", or "not negligible"?
Basically I take issue with the assumptions that 50000 Linux users would preorder a phone that is twice the price of a Nexus 4, but two thirds decided not to because of Mir.
"Among those Linux enthusiast, the proportion who base their choice of phone on the Mir debacle is not negligible anymore." - there is no evidence that this statement is true. It is much more likely that people were put off by the high price and unknown hardware and unknown future delivery date. But if you honestly do not believe that, then I encourage you to start your own campaign for a Manjaro/Mint phone. Nobody is forcing you to support Ubuntu.
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Originally posted by johnc View Posthella popular, huh? How many have they sold...?
Seriously, I feel bad for Canonical - I'd love to have seen them succeed with their phone. But they made the entirely wrong moves, tried to imitate the big players (Android, Apple) too much, instead of taking advantage of their strengths. Instead of seeing the community as a strength, they went to the opposite direction, and shut away the community, trying to build their own little walled garden - while Jolla actually sees the community as an asset and knows how to utilize it.
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