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Talk Of A "Massive Power Regression" In Linux 3.5
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Originally posted by madjr View Postsorry your zealot definition is wrong and no I didn't call the kernel devs zealots, but the douches around here.
anyway I appreciate the other more technical part of your response.
Sorry I was talking more about the "linux-desktop" as a whole, more than the linux kernel.
Anyway thanks for the mature response, you're one of the few people who don't insult others around here.
the linux desktop problem will get fixed[i know that much] the problem is we are facing a war with one of the most dirt douches of the planet[microsoft] since somehow they know that a beatiful linux experience out of the box can seriously harm their monopoly[see the mobile sector for example], the problem is this famous draconian deals to convert every OEM/vendor in a linux enemy[at least the big ones] making the road very hard but many skilled ppl everyday find ways around it and once linux can operate well enough on this faulty hardware and we find a way to have access to OEM i think linux will sky rocket[and microsoft would go 100% patent trolling tho ] but patience is a most here.
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I can confirm power regression is HUGE on my AMD Thinkpad laptop at least on Arch 3.5.3 kernel, previous 3.4.9 was not exemplary, too (3.4.7 was better).
And only Ubuntu with kernel 3.2 could get me 5-5.5 hours - closer to windows, under which i get 7 hours, +- 2-3 hours, depending on usage. Which led me to think that from a user point of view - windows power management is more "scalable" and "adjustable". On windows you can save extremely even when battery is almost over.
This situation is completely awful, and I agree with
Originally posted by 1c3d0g View PostI can see these power issues are becoming a major problem for Linux in general. It's hard to say to Windows users: "hey, this software is free, but you'll get an hour less of battery life". This is simply not acceptable, no matter how you twist it.
I know the troubles involved in making progress (uncooperative companies, undocumented protocols, closed-off hardware, etc.), but this is something that we as a community need to put pressure on. I don't know who, or which influential company, will need to fire the first salvo, but it's something that's got to be done to make hardware manufacturers realize the seriousness of the issue.
Originally posted by ua=42 View PostAh. I was wondering when we would get another power regression. Anyone want to make bets on how many kernel versions will pass before it is fixed? My bet is 4.
Which, of course doesn't mean i will switch to windows or Ubuntu because of that. It's just the way it is...
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