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  • System76 Unveils Their Firmware Manager Project For Graphically Updating Firmware

    Phoronix: System76 Unveils Their Firmware Manager Project For Graphically Updating Firmware

    While most major hardware vendors have been adopting LVFS+Fwupd for firmware updating on Linux, Linux PC vendor System76 has notably been absent from the party for a variety of reasons. Today they announced their new Firmware Manager project that bridges the gap between their lack of LVFS support and their own hosted firmware service...

    http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?pag...rmware-Manager

  • #2
    For fwupd, the only solutions available were to distribute either GNOME Software or KDE Discover, which is not viable for Linux distributions which have their own application centers, or frontends to package managers.
    fwupdmgr is a command line application not tied to anything by Gnome or KDE.

    Why are they lying to force their NIH crap?

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    • #3
      Too bad they couldn’t settle stuff with upstream and Richard. At least they kept GTK and tight integration with Fedora, Debian and Ubuntu. No bad toolkits or crazy UI designs so it’s not a total disaster.

      5/10.

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      • #4
        Awesomeness they want to protect sales numbers and other commercial sensitive information. For now they don’t trust the upstream services.

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        • #5
          I am amazed that the interface on top of programs like flashrom is getting all this attention, or the fact that they gather firmware blobs somewhere.

          How much time are these companies spending on making programs like flashrom better?

          -- a significant flashrom contributor.
          Last edited by libv; 08-17-2019, 11:03 AM. Reason: add --

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          • #6
            Developer of the firmware manager here. This is an excellent summary of the project!

            Originally posted by Awesomeness View Post

            fwupdmgr is a command line application not tied to anything by Gnome or KDE.

            Why are they lying to force their NIH crap?
            Would you like to explain to your customers, and all of you end users, why they need to use command line applications in order to check for firmware updates, read their changelogs, and apply the updates? Or do you want to give them automatic desktop notifications that open a nicely-designed UI where they can read changelogs and update firmware at the click of a button (or the return key of a keyboard)?

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            • #7
              Originally posted by 144Hz View Post
              Awesomeness they want to protect sales numbers and other commercial sensitive information. For now they don’t trust the upstream services.
              a service now owned by the Linux Foundation?

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              • #8
                Originally posted by mmstick View Post
                Developer of the firmware manager here. This is an excellent summary of the project!



                Would you like to explain to your customers, and all of you end users, why they need to use command line applications in order to check for firmware updates, read their changelogs, and apply the updates? Or do you want to give them automatic desktop notifications that open a nicely-designed UI where they can read changelogs and update firmware at the click of a button (or the return key of a keyboard)?
                Could you explain to your customers, why if they install a different OS (e.g. RHEL), they need to install yet another piece of software to update the system firmware? which they wouldn't need to on a Dell or Lenovo machine.

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by Britoid View Post
                  Could you explain to your customers, why if they install a different OS (e.g. RHEL), they need to install yet another piece of software to update the system firmware? which they wouldn't need to on a Dell or Lenovo machine.
                  People who are capable of installing another OS are probably capable of using the UEFI-based updater?

                  System76 ships their computers with their own OS which now has a nice GUI for firmware updates that has an option of working with LVFS. It's open source and compatible with latest display tech. What's the reason for all the hate? I thought Linux was about choices?

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by Britoid View Post
                    a service now owned by the Linux Foundation?
                    Not all people trust them nowadays. Most of those point out their donation page. I don't want this thread to derail into identity politics - I'm just providing context.

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