Jolla Releases Sailfish 3.0 Mobile Linux Operating System

[89c51]

I'm surprised some don't care about it. We need a FOSS system, not a closed one. There are too many blobs already.

The biggest problem are the drivers, and that is not something jolla can solve -except maybe if they had some billions to spare and decided to reverse engineer and optimize everything or design their own chips.

The few bits on the UI is something that doesn't bother me at all. And even if it did bother me i would try to install an alternative GUI. It exists (glacier). Have you seen many of the ones moaning do it. No.

Sadly this situation started from jolla themselves -and the CEO at the time- who IMO spoke a little bit too much too soon. Maybe it the tablet thing had worked and phone sales were bigger things would have been different. it didn't happen and here we are with pretty much the only alternative to walled gardens or spyware.

[shmerl]

the only people that care much about open sourcing the UI

I'm surprised some don't care about it. We need a FOSS system, not a closed one. There are too many blobs already.

[89c51]

While respecting the promise they have made in the past[about releasing the full source code of Sailfish OS, including the UI components], they only have to gain, both new users and also direct contributors, testers, application developers, free publicity.

No. There are people already testing early stuff, people that contribute after agreeing with jolla on some terms, noone stops you from writing your own app and as for publicity the only people that care much about open sourcing the UI (even though you can patch it/there is infra already for that -see patch manager) are the ones bitching around on the internet. If any of those was really interested in contributing -because he likes the OS- would have done it already like many others do.

[onicsis]

While respecting the promise they have made in the past[about releasing the full source code of Sailfish OS, including the UI components], they only have to gain, both new users and also direct contributors, testers, application developers, free publicity.

[shmerl]

Yes and those in-house developed components are co-owned by the people who own the company.

Exactly the point? And they are stalling open sourcing it.

[OMTDesign]

And I wish they'd open source it already (it takes them years, and still no dice). Nothing beats their swipe UI navigation. Something Plasma Mobile should learn from.

Their pull down menu is amazing. Since Apple has ditched their home button, and now are using swipe based navigation, Apple should copy this feature. Then everyone will copy Apple and we'll get that feature :P.

[L_A_G]

No other stakeholders, only Jolla stalling it forever. I'm not talking about stuff like ActiveSync or Android compat - I don't care about that. I'm talking about core components like UI and standard tools.

Yes and those in-house developed components are co-owned by the people who own the company.

[R41N3R]

Looking forward to the day where a REAL open source Linux phone is available with KDE Plasma Mobile, Purism, UBPorts or whatever.

I pretty much refuse to buy anything Jolla because they have failed to fulfill their promises of open sourcing it. I don't see that changing.

Exactly. I even wasted money in this company, just got a phone and I didn't ask to claim the money back for the tablet in the hope they keep at least their promises of open sourcing the UI.

[wizard69]

Enjoy your spyware or walled garden phone until then

i actually enjoy my walled garden on my phone. It is when you leave the world of cell phones that I have trouble with iOS. A Linux based tablet worth buying would be nice though.

[89c51]

Looking forward to the day where a REAL open source Linux phone is available with KDE Plasma Mobile, Purism, UBPorts or whatever.

I pretty much refuse to buy anything Jolla because they have failed to fulfill their promises of open sourcing it. I don't see that changing.

Enjoy your spyware or walled garden phone until then.