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Originally posted by b8e5n View Post
Valve takes 30% of the sales on steam. If they were indeed making a "discount" for multiplatform games, that would motivate most of them to port them from the start.
I was also quite disappointed by some of the ports, due to lacking graphics options, or simply by poor performances. The drivers are better than ever now, but still far from those of windows. I might go for the Rx480 just because ATI is making huge effort to go full open source. That, even though I am fckd and cannot upgrade my ubuntu to keep using closed source GCN1.0 drivers.
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Originally posted by Passso View Post
Yes he wrote a lot of bad programs, anyway the beginning was right : the day MS Office and Photoshop get a native Linux version you will instantly x2 or x3 the number of users.
Those 2 have just no equivalent program on Linux, MS Office is used by 1 billion people daily...
On the server side : my work is to manage Windows servers (from a Linux workstation because I like it) and I agree a lot of features are missing on Linux.
Including : shadow copy (/= backup) because with it Windows handles per user recovery in the filemanager, domains to simplify management of mass computers and servers, user managements (not only user/group, a REAL one), strategies (including security features, configuration, software installation etc.).
(And once again no flame: I only have Linux machines at home because I think it is easiest to manage as a workstation.)
Actually, I ditched Windows in the first place because I couldn't get MS Office to format correctly a complex document (thesis). I was spending more time on formatting sections, sections headers or titles, sections page numbering, headings and the table of contents update than I was actually writing. It got me pissed off to such an extent I eventually switched to OpenOffice (2.4 got released at the time, and was a real breakthrough) thus full Linux and could finish my thesis by not caring about formatting since it was more intuitive on OOo. I've never looked back. Even at work, I keep installing LO on my (sadly) Windows machines for personal use, even though I'm an advanced MS Office user, but there's nothing in the world that can make me angrier (except Real Madrid winning) than MS Office can once in a while. To the point I could be the guy in a meme throwing its screen through a window. It just can't handle complex documents at all in a natural way.
Thus, yes, LibreOffice is a strong equivalent to MS Office, and even better in my opinion.
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Originally posted by k1e0x View Post
I've used Linux/Unix for over 20 years and I just don't really understand the "need" for Office and Photoshop. I've used these programs on occasion and I think they are awful. Just clunky things that are hard to work with. Even the idea of Office doesn't make sense to me, you want something everyone can read, use an open format.. and if you want something that HAS to look the same way on ever ones computer then your using the wrong thing anyhow, you want a PDF for that.
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I really don't see people paying for Office on Linux.. I think its a joke.
The facts are:
- Calc and Writer are ok, but Impress is far, far away from Powerpoint and compatibility is pretty bad with .pstx
- there is no equivalent to Outlook in the open source world. There are good softwares (KMail, Evolution, Thunderbird) but they do not have Exchange compatilibilty (some tools exists but they are far to be stable/usable for a business). The Outlook/Exchange combo is now the primary productivity tool in the world
- No product is actually compatible with Adobe ones, some can open files in their format (PDF and PSD mainly) but none can write them. The problem is : the large majority of business in the world "decided" to use Photoshop and Adobe Writer so as long we cannot at least modify those documents Linux is out of office business
(by "decided" I mean that schools/university have free/cheap licences so that they keep forming students with them and nothing else).
Once again I work 100% on OSS and manage Windows servers and workstation, and I dream about all my company full Linux but today this is impossible, in the media/management/events you have to communicate instantly in the "format of majority".
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Originally posted by Mez' View PostYes, MS Office has an equivalent. It was called OpenOffice and is now known as LibreOffice. It's not because you choose to ignore it that it's not a worthy equivalent.
Thus, yes, LibreOffice is a strong equivalent to MS Office, and even better in my opinion.
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Originally posted by Gazprom View Post
Actually, that's the best idea I've heard on how to grow Linux gaming market share yet. Say Valve lowered their cut to 15% for every game that had a Linux port. Linux would overnight have about 16% market share in economical terms. That would give even AAA title publishers something to think really hard about. And Valve would still make a profit..
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Originally posted by Passso View Post
I work 100% on OpenOffice/LibreOffice at work and at home since 10 years and this is not equivalent. Read my last post for details.
Regarding Outlook, it's sort of true, but you can overcome this with Notes. We were using it in my previous mission (on Windows) and it worked just fine for everybody. It was obviously not integrated to MS Office but that was just fine. I could list some drawbacks against Outlook (less font formatting, no tables, outdated UI) but also some advantages, such as the booking of a meeting + room that is much easier and more powerful on Notes. I guess the Linux version should live up to this and satisfy most users.
On PDFs, I'm not aware of a way to make up for the lack of Adobe Reader, though IRL in any of my mission we've barely used PDF editing anyway, but I'm aware it has real use cases in different fields of activity.Last edited by Mez'; 02 June 2016, 10:20 AM.
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Originally posted by schmidtbag View PostIt's not biased. It only comes up when you log in, at random.
The bias is when people run the Windows version of the steam client in Linux, or Linux users who remain logged in for weeks on end.
And yet, I've seen the Steam survey on Linux *twice*. But I've had it come up at least five times on Windows, despite using that platform far less. I've seen multiple reports of similar behavior elsewhere. I wonder if there's a random-number-handling bug or something in the Linux client; that kind of thing is easy to do if you're not careful.
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