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Valve doesn't care what OS runs their BPM. They just want their Steam client and controller in the living room. If it's on Windows so be it. If Valve cared about their own OS they wouldn't have released BPM on Windows and Mac. It's either of two things: either Valve is preparing something behind the scenes for SteamOS, or Valve is simply giving up on SteamOS. Because at their current level of interest SteamOS is definitely on its way to die. They don't even advertise SteamOS games on their own Steam Hardware page, it's mostly Windows games on that page that is supposed to be the home page of Steam Machines!!
My guess is that it's only a matter of time before we read the news about the shut down of SteamOS, but who knows, I could be wrong. I hope I am.
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Originally posted by eydee View Post
And it will probably stay that way. If you have a P4-era legacy computer and want to play games on it (those that came out back then), XP is pretty much the only choice. Wine will be too slow, so linux is out of question, vista and newer won't have proper video drivers. Some people even keep Win98 computers around for really old games, only Steam can't keep track of it, as it doesn't run on Win98.
For example there are people who said 'this is Windows 98 laptop (remember that it is not 'a laptop' it is 'Windows 98 laptop'), so nothing else made sense to install on it'... and those are actually majority of people
Major mentality is like that and it represent actual 'No Choice' way... whatever comes with machine keep it. Only ethusiasts are who like to have choice and to build their own hardware and software combinations - but that had been always vast minority.Last edited by dungeon; 02 December 2015, 09:27 PM.
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Originally posted by sarmad View PostValve doesn't care what OS runs their BPM. They just want their Steam client and controller in the living room. If it's on Windows so be it. If Valve cared about their own OS they wouldn't have released BPM on Windows and Mac. It's either of two things: either Valve is preparing something behind the scenes for SteamOS, or Valve is simply giving up on SteamOS. Because at their current level of interest SteamOS is definitely on its way to die. They don't even advertise SteamOS games on their own Steam Hardware page, it's mostly Windows games on that page that is supposed to be the home page of Steam Machines!!
My guess is that it's only a matter of time before we read the news about the shut down of SteamOS, but who knows, I could be wrong. I hope I am.
Not true and same for BPM, the more people use it , the more familiar they will be, so when they do the switch it will be basically painless.
Many people who actually use BPM in windows, like or want to use SteamOS, they just waiting for X game to appear.
But that's where Vulkan (aka mantle 2.0) will come in. If succesful it could do at some point to DX, what HTML5 is doing to Flash.
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Originally posted by yoshi314 View Post
because the target hardware is varied, and reusing a well established binary distro is good enough.
you want to tweak it - install gentoo on it. nobody is preventing you from doing that.
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Originally posted by dungeon View PostI actually have something else in mind, that is a theory how equal amount of people 'keep whatever OS comes with machine and refuse to upgrade' vs ' install something else, like linux'.
For example there are people who said 'this is Windows 98 laptop (remember that it is not 'a laptop' it is 'Windows 98 laptop'), so nothing else made sense to install on it'... and those are actually majority of people
Major mentality is like that and it represent actual 'No Choice' way... whatever comes with machine keep it. Only ethusiasts are who like to have choice and to build their own hardware and software combinations - but that had been always vast minority.
Go figure.
Then again, that is how computers are advertised, at least where I live (BC Canada). Best buy puts out ads like "windows 8 CPU with HD screen" and "windows 10 computer - CPU only" (calling a midsize tower a "CPU" for whatever reason).
generally if it is already there and mostly works, Windows stays put. no questions asked.
a small percentage of the general public seem to know anything about Linux at all. if it isn't painfully obvious on a major online retailer, on TV or at a popular physical store, it will be noticed only by enthusiasts.
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Originally posted by sarmad View PostValve doesn't care what OS runs their BPM. They just want their Steam client and controller in the living room. If it's on Windows so be it. If Valve cared about their own OS they wouldn't have released BPM on Windows and Mac. It's either of two things: either Valve is preparing something behind the scenes for SteamOS, or Valve is simply giving up on SteamOS.
I agree that steamOS needs a few more features though and Linux in general needs better gaming performance. Valve seems to have to some extent given up on openGL ecosystem.Last edited by humbug; 03 December 2015, 03:59 AM.
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And saying that Steam Machines are available for a few weeks, when only talking about availability in the US, is a bit disingenuous. Most of the world still has a few weeks to wait before even being able to order one, let alone receive and use one.
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Originally posted by iq-0 View PostAnd saying that Steam Machines are available for a few weeks, when only talking about availability in the US, is a bit disingenuous. Most of the world still has a few weeks to wait before even being able to order one, let alone receive and use one.
Apparently steamOS / BPM users don't get the survey which rules out steam machines.
I have got the survey many times on Linux but I don't use steamOS.Last edited by humbug; 03 December 2015, 04:09 AM.
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