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Originally posted by duby229 View PostPlease don't misunderstand me, I'm not calling Ubuntu users retarded. Instead I'm saying that a certain percentage of any userbase is going to be retarded, and lets face it, most of that group will be using Ubuntu.
I'm using Linux since 2009 and tried many of the major distributions including Slackware, Debian, Mint and OpenSuse. Shortly after introduction of Unity I switched to Ubuntu. It has apt and it's beautifull. I'm not a programmer or admin, and I use Linux on my home desktop. Ubuntu will be primary choice for people, who want to switch from Windows, and you should respect them for trying and respect Canonical for helping them.
By the way, my PC has 2 GB of ram, my Ubuntu is 32-bit and I use Nouveau driver to play indie games on steam.
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Originally posted by honeybadger View PostNew users shun gnu/linux ecosystem because of people like you.
I'm using Linux since 2009 and tried many of the major distributions including Slackware, Debian, Mint and OpenSuse. Shortly after introduction of Unity I switched to Ubuntu. It has apt and it's beautifull. I'm not a programmer or admin, and I use Linux on my home desktop. Ubuntu will be primary choice for people, who want to switch from Windows, and you should respect them for trying and respect Canonical for helping them.
By the way, my PC has 2 GB of ram, my Ubuntu is 32-bit and I use Nouveau driver to play indie games on steam.
I welcome diversity. I'd love to see more of it. Diversity comes in all forms... Retards and Geniuses. Biased and Unbiased. There is nothing you or I can do about it that is just the way it is.
It doesnt mean that the majority of Ubuntu users are retarded... Quite the contrary as a matter of fact... But it does mean the the majority of retarded users are Ubuntu users. If for no other reason than it is the easiest distro and most commonly available one. I say so be it, retarded or not they are perfectly welcome.Last edited by duby229; 18 March 2013, 03:40 AM.
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Originally posted by duby229 View PostEven if you did only have 2GB RAM, a 64bit OS allows to use the full register table. Double the general registers and also double the SSE registers as well. If the applications you need arent compute heavy then it probably wont matter, but it is still an advantage of 64bit over 32bit that applies even at smaller memory amounts.
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Yeah, that is true. Atom sucks pretty hard. So for those folks putting linux on it they will need to deal with its limitations. Then there is the whole PowerVR fiasco to boot. But I can't think of many games that will run on Atom anyway so I don't think it'll be very useful for Steam.
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Originally posted by duby229 View PostYeah, that is true. Atom sucks pretty hard. So for those folks putting linux on it they will need to deal with its limitations. Then there is the whole PowerVR fiasco to boot. But I can't think of many games that will run on Atom anyway so I don't think it'll be very useful for Steam.
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Sum of things.
Let's sum up the thread:
Why Ubuntu? Because of ease of use, Big community and a Company that is pushing Linux to the masses, which no one else has bothered to do in all these years. Apparently, ease of use and a large user base is scary to the old hats it seems.
Why 32bit? I don't know about others but I chose 32bit because Xubuntu recommended that I use 32bit. And the last time I tried 64bit I had severe compatibility problems.
That's about it, in a nut shell.
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Originally posted by elanthis View PostIt's somewhat annoying to me that the major distros even keep making 32-bit x86 releases. I was likewise annoyed that Windows didn't go 64-bit only by Win8, or even as far ago as Vista. OSX is the only major OS that only ships a 64-bit only OS these days; a facet of their control of the hardware. Still, I can't imagine a sizable portion of users are upgrading to the latest Fedora/Ubuntu or Windows on ancient hardware; I'm sure it happens (someone here will claim they do it, surely), but happens enough to be worth caring about? Especially on Linux where specialist "you suck and need new hardware" distros exist and more will arise if necessary. There's no strong reason to develop, test, and distribute x86-32 builds of Fedora or Ubuntu anymore. Likewise on Windows; users on old hardware and upgrading to the latest OS are statistical anomalies. The markets where ancient hardware is common are just pirating XP anyways; fuck 'em. Hopefully there's some market research somewhere to prove me wrong and make the situation less ridiculous.
you do realize that the entire point of shit like lubuntu, lxde fedora, bodhi, puppy etc is to keep old hardware alive right
cut 32bit support and half the linux distros will be gone
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