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Originally posted by disi View PostI haven't tried D3 yet
What anti-playing measures did they implement?
DRM and perma-Online (like mmorpg) afaik...?
Sucky thing is Steam requires you to be logged in to play as well.
It does blow outright balls that you really don't "own" games anymore. The new gen XBOX and PS are going to be digital download (like steam) to stop people from re-selling used games. I don't see DRM going away... ever. It's tiresome for sure.
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Originally posted by Pallidus View Posti red it just fine :
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2. I really hope english isn't your native language, otherwise it looks like you left school in the age of 10.
Please read the sentence again:
"this port is being done internally by their own developers, which isn't a huge surprise given their past public statements and already existing internal linux client work"
-> It's not a big surprise that the port is done internally. This has nothing to do with the game being a surprise or not
-> It's not a big surprise that the port is done internally, cause they already did internal linux client work. This shows that blizz has internal Linux knowledge, therefore doing the port inhouse instead of hiring externals to do it.
I hope everything is clear for you right now.
If they really wanted to bring a Wow linux client, they could have done that years ago. They could also do it NOW, cause it seems to be working already. But this will not happen.
Imo it will either be D3 or SC2, but my bets are on SC2 .
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Originally posted by nightmarex View PostD3 does require you to be online and logged into a server with a battlenet account.
Sucky thing is Steam requires you to be logged in to play as well.
It does blow outright balls that you really don't "own" games anymore. The new gen XBOX and PS are going to be digital download (like steam) to stop people from re-selling used games. I don't see DRM going away... ever. It's tiresome for sure.
Even though I understand that the game is somehow "attached" to the client itself, and thus you only have access to it as long as the steam service itself exists, on the other hand, if you buy a CD/DVD game, in the vast majority of the cases, you only have access to it in a specific platform (windows, linux or mac). Whyle on steam you can play the game on every platform supported by the developer. Furthermore, the DRM in CD/DVD games usually requires the original media to play the game, so if the media stops working (due to scratches, etc) you no longer own anything.
So obviously, besides OSS games, I agree that HIB are the closest to free we can get, but as compared to CD/DVD games, it is not that clear to me if steam is all that bad.Last edited by Figueiredo; 07 January 2013, 11:59 AM.
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Originally posted by Figueiredo View PostSteam does not require that you are online to play, you can lauch the game in offline mode.
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Originally posted by Figueiredo View PostSteam does not require that you are online to play, you can lauch the game in offline mode.
Even though I understand that the game is somehow "attached" to the client itself, and thus you only have access to it as long as the steam service itself exists, on the other hand, if you buy a CD/DVD game, in the vast majority of the cases, you only have access to it in a specific platform (windows, linux or mac). Whyle on steam you can play the game on every platform supported by the developer. Furthermore, the DRM in CD/DVD games usually requires the original media to play the game, so if the media stops working (due to scratches, etc) you no longer own anything.
So obviously, besides OSS games, I agree that HIB are the closest to free we can get, but as compared to CD/DVD games, it is not that clear to me if steam is all that bad.
DRM in cds has been around for ever, true. Though I suppose I could sell the disc if the serial isn't account locked however I wasn't defending DVDs nor was I saying steam blows just that DRM does.
Now just to dig since you brought it up, I can still sell my XBOX discs because their not account locked. DRM be damned I still kinda own that one. I can sell it if I no longer like it. Can't do that with "my" steam skyrim.
Steam has it's pluses, good games, good sale prices but mostly on the Windows version.
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Originally posted by nightmarex View PostQ.) In offline mode don't you still have to log into the client though?
In a nutshell, the DRM is up to the developer, it can vary between none (HIB style) and horrendous (GTA IV).
In my previous post I wasn't comparing steam to consoles, but to CD/DVD PC games, the rest being equal.
In my country, console games very expensive. Skyrim for PS3, for example, costs around US$100, while on Steam its around $60 and on steamsales its ~$40.
So, at least here, you would have to choose between paying more than double on a reselable console version than on a steam version you can keep "forever".
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I don't own a console, so I may not know the best store to buy used games, but in a quick search, although the price varies wildly, the avarage is around US$50-60. So you pretty much loose exacly what the steam version costs.
Also of notice is that exacly due to the very high prices in Brazil (mainly due to extremely high taxes), the market of non-pirated games is very small. Most console owners simply pirate their games. Consequently game companies just ignore our market. Thus, the market may be very different from what you may be used to. Old games (as well as old hardware) take way too long to have it's prices reduced (if at all), thus GTA IV for the PS3 costs around $40, while the bundle with every version of GTA ever released for windows and mac costed me $20 on last year's sale.
So, over here, if buying original games, steam is simply a no-brainer.
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IMO what it would take to get the ball running on linux gaming would be a AAA title like black ops II or the like
that would be a reason to get excited and seeing how mw games are built on a modified doom3 engine I'm sure it wouldn't be all that hard.
the nvidia blob is decent enough and ubuntu 13.04 with the improved unity doesn't fuck up game perfomance much...
but wtf are these companies expecting by porting old ass games to linux? seriously??
Originally posted by bug77 View PostIf you're looking for homosex, you can just ask. Politely. coz I'm gay
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