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What you are saying about Valve would then apply also to EA's Origin , BIS Store and a bunch of many other similar online services (granted,, they don't offer the same level of service than Steam).
In the end , US and EU regulations would NEVER allow M$ pull a stunt like that just like they forced M$ to make Internet Explorer removable . period.
As for competition of M$ Store vs Steam, well, at least in the games field, M$ already had a major failure with "Games for Windows (Live)"
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I am pretty sure you can study lots of things without needing autocad, solidworks or photoshop. Btw. for 3d modelling you can use Maya which runs on Linux (and was working 1998 or so on IRIX). If you can not live without photoshop you should try wine. google paid lots of money to support it.
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Originally posted by BO$$ View PostNT is still a shitty single user kernel.
People always run as administrators and disable UAC cause it's annoying.
Linux makes it actively hard to stay root all the time (talking ubuntu here).
Distros that assume that the user knows what he is doing don't have such restrictions at all, it is no problem to run Arch, Slackware or Gentoo as root all the time. This is not something that is magically different on Linux. The first thing that makes your system secure or insecure is the user, not the OS.
So NT is still shit. What is that argument that it has all these nice features but they are disabled? They're userbase is still in the 90's mindset with administrator account and windows is forced to follow the stupid users.
This is still Microsoft's mistake for making them think that running as admin is the way to go. Nothing can save them from their shitty decisions. Luckily they posted their first loss this quarter. Goodbye and good riddance of Microsoft cancer!
In short: The Windows security model is not bad per se, in fact it is pretty good. What is bad is the users that don't want to give up some convenience for having a secure system. But that is not the fault of the kernel.
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Originally posted by 89c51 View PostAutocad is an example. Solidworks is another. There are alternatives of course but when something is considered an "industry standard" people want it even if they don't "need" it and are directed to it. Another example is Photoshop. If you are a graphic designer and ask for a job i a company they will probably ask for photoshop illustrator etc no matter if you are a gimp or inkscape wizard.
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Originally posted by AJSB View PostIn the end , US and EU regulations would NEVER allow M$ pull a stunt like that just like they forced M$ to make Internet Explorer removable . period.
Now we talk about a "Kindergarten" Valve can be stay alive in the sand box at the "Kindergarten"
On the other side a windows app-store is a full attack with there monopole power against the steam app-store.
But sure maybe the US and EU regulations protect valve in the "Kindergarten".
Originally posted by AJSB View PostAs for competition of M$ Store vs Steam, well, at least in the games field, M$ already had a major failure with "Games for Windows (Live)"
But sure maybe the US and EU regulations protect valve in the "Kindergarten".
Originally posted by AJSB View PostWhat you are saying about Valve would then apply also to EA's Origin , BIS Store and a bunch of many other similar online services (granted,, they don't offer the same level of service than Steam).
They all offer the same level of DRM/Copy-protection anti-service.
The Valve-Linux investment if just the effort to escape the Microsoft-trap or in other words its the effort to escape the sand-box in the kindergarten.
This can only be successful with windows incompatible hardware because the hardware company's like Intel and AMD do a cross-platform-subsidization beneficial to Microsoft with a rate of 95% for every hardware you buy.
This means Valve can only be successful if they drop the "x86" platform this means they need to be a hardware company like apple sell "iphones"
My advice to Gabe is: Build a "console" based on "windows-incompatible" hardware for example MIPS systems like "Loongson" and then beat consoles like xbox and the Windows-PC in a single round.
If they stay inside of the x86 windows hardware platform they will lose and this is 100% for sure.Last edited by maldorordiscord; 26 July 2012, 04:51 PM.
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Originally posted by AJSB View PostToo late for Netscape but it worked just fine for Firefox (and Opera), thank you
Microsoft won this battle again! because they earn money on selling IE with windows and they earn money on "ads" and they do have the biggest market share.
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Its not just games that's holding Linux back, its the commercial applications as well as the likes of Quicken and QuickBooks. If the makers of major market applications can be convinced they can make money selling apps that run natively on Linux then they'd undertake the effort of porting them
I'm going out on a limb to also say that convincing Adobe the value of porting Photoshop and Premiere and Acrobat Pro to Linux as well, considering many companies depend on these applications
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