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Originally posted by stqn View PostYou know, there?s a thing called QA that commercial development houses use to make sure the biggest problems are fixed before they sell their games. Customers aren?t supposed to do the QA for free, no, sorry, they aren?t supposed to _pay_ to do the QA? I?ll whine if I want, and I would have liked to read somewhere _before_ I bought the bundle that the games don?t work, so I don?t think that this ?whining? is useless.
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Originally posted by rustybroomhandle View PostThat's just dumb. The game works perfectly fine if you meet system requirements, regardless of it being winelibbed. Protest, yes - it might help get more native support, but honestly, a petition is just dumb.
I think in a perfect world winelib shouldn't be used, but as long as the game works well and you can't even notice it's using winelib, then why does it matter? If the issue is that it doesn't integrate well into your system, that should be the bug you complain about, not what the underlying lib is.
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Originally posted by rustybroomhandle View PostThat's just dumb. The game works perfectly fine if you meet system requirements, regardless of it being winelibbed. Protest, yes - it might help get more native support, but honestly, a petition is just dumb.
I wonder what you mean by protest...
This is the most civil and productive means at our disposal. It is certainly better than just a bunch of complaining on some random forum.
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Originally posted by entropy View PostOk, installed Limbo...
Right on start it quit with the following error:
Video card is below minimum system requirement. You need a video card with at least Shader Model 3.0
Hooray! \o/
Radeon HD 4850 - libdrm+mesa from latest git.
Make sure floating point is enabled, S3TC is installed, and set these environment variables:
R600_GLSL130=1
R600_STREAMOUT=0
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Originally posted by rustybroomhandle View PostThat's just dumb. The game works perfectly fine if you meet system requirements, regardless of it being winelibbed. Protest, yes - it might help get more native support, but honestly, a petition is just dumb.
Game also disable second display on exit even if game run in windowed mode.
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Originally posted by Hamish Wilson View PostIf not this, what do you suggest? Take to the streets? Incite armed military revolt? Flame Jeffery Rosen?
I wonder what you mean by protest...
This is the most civil and productive means at our disposal. It is certainly better than just a bunch of complaining on some random forum.
Work with rather than work against. Make the prospect of supporting Linux for games an attractive one to these people, rather than creating a hostile environment. I'd wager most of them are new to the technology, new to the culture and in general can probably use a bit of guidance from the community. And definitely some community help in dealing with some of the tech-support.
Anyway, here are hilights from the Reddit AMA, and the Limbo-Wine thing is discussed also: http://www.ubuntuvibes.com/2012/06/h...ers-share.html
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Originally posted by rustybroomhandle View PostWork with rather than work against. Make the prospect of supporting Linux for games an attractive one to these people, rather than creating a hostile environment. I'd wager most of them are new to the technology, new to the culture and in general can probably use a bit of guidance from the community. And definitely some community help in dealing with some of the tech-support.
I decided on a petition as the most civil and constructive way to show discontent - I do not wish to be hostile to anyone. I perfectly understand some of the people who have signed it are really pissed, but you need to understand that to them this was a violation of trust. We trusted the bundle to ensure that Linux users got fair treatment, and this seems like a betrayal of that.
If you can think of other more "constructive" means, then great. But this so far seems to still be the best approach.
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