Well, if/when Steam will be released for Linux, it would be nice to see them use autopackage for the redistribution of Steam in order to provide support for all distros out there.
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Originally posted by TwistedLincoln View PostThat's actually a great point. And one could argue that since Valve doesn't require exclusive distribution, some companies might release games in paralell for both Steam and retail Steam-less box sets for Linux. Which would be a great thing.
But then again I could just as easily be wrong. Perhaps developers could look at a Steam victory on Linux and decide the platform is viable, but decide to release their software without DRM. That would really be something to celebrate.
The one thing that does worry me is the catch-22: if people like me boycott Steam on Linux, we'll help stop DRM from spreading. But at the same time, if Steam fails miserably on Linux, it could cause other developers to start thinking that Linux isn't worth developing for. So in that sense, it's a no-win...
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Originally posted by V!NCENT View PostIt is al about getting gamers from a proprietary DRM ridden Windows over to Linux. If you want to make an omulet you've got to break an egg...
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Originally posted by Dragonlord View PostAnd live from that time on in slavery and misery. Better boycott now and build a proper solution (Desura as one example) instead of living in self-allowed hell.
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Originally posted by meklu View PostWell, if/when Steam will be released for Linux, it would be nice to see them use autopackage for the redistribution of Steam in order to provide support for all distros out there.
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Originally posted by meklu View PostWell, if/when Steam will be released for Linux, it would be nice to see them use autopackage for the redistribution of Steam in order to provide support for all distros out there.
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Originally posted by deanjo View PostDon't like it, don't use it simple as that. What is more important is that you do have a choice vs no choice at all.
Originally posted by V!NCENT View PostOk so Phoronix linked back to its own article... Still Michael claims to have a resource, the binary is up for download and it is being worked on. Valve has been using Wine hacks before Crossover came to the Mac...
That's not Michaels fsck up and a Linux binary is comming.
So it will come.
Originally posted by meklu View PostWell, if/when Steam will be released for Linux, it would be nice to see them use autopackage for the redistribution of Steam in order to provide support for all distros out there.Originally posted by energyman View PostI hope not. Autopackage is crap. Unneeded, superfluos crap. A solution without a problem.
Please explain to me why you feel that users should be happy with no desktop integration whatsoever with straight-up compressed archives with binaries in, or with a fragmentation of packaging systems which don't have a common format standard which is compatible with them all as it should be?
Standards = freedom. Linux needs more freedom. Everyone parties about pushing other standards, but when it comes to standards for being able to easily share installable programs which integrate and are easy to use, i.e. not distro or distro version dependent, the solution is to go eff yourself? Great progress.
Yes, Autopackage or other real cross-distro standards should be used for Steam and for all programs which developers feel should reach all Linux users.
Or do you only care about Ubuntu and Debian users, and everyone else is irrelevant?
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Originally posted by SkyHiRider View PostMeh, simple .sh install script would be enough. And Valve likes simple. as it is more simple to create and troubleshoot. Plus, it can be run anywhere.
Linux needs proper standards in this department to get developers from point A to Z easily for all distros. Linux needs to cater better to developers and thus users in their ability to easily get the software they want.
Don't even get me started on the freedom to upgrade to newer versions of programs easily due to them not being in the repositories, like the simple job of upgrading from Firefox 3 to Firefox 3.5, or from 3.5 to 3.6, lol, you either unpack and click on the binary from a compressed archive, and manually make the menu links, or you have to wait for the next distro update which is currently in beta. That of course is one reason some Linux users choose rolling releases like apparently Arch and others like Gentoo are, but I would like both choice, ease of use, and stability, yeah, all three, I'm a greedy one. Would be very easy to do though if there was this thing called packaging standards.
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Originally posted by SkyHiRider View PostMeh, simple .sh install script would be enough. And Valve likes simple. as it is more simple to create and troubleshoot. Plus, it can be run anywhere.
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