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Originally posted by Dragonlord View PostBy the way... who needs a sucking steam client when there is Desura. Requires just the Linux client but they have it planed for once the client itself is stable.
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Originally posted by Dragonlord View PostNot an emulator in the way a console emulator works. It though still hooks itself between the application and the OS providing wrappers for non-supported OS parts. It "emulates" windows as far as is required (including registry and libraries) to make the application work. I don't care what wine devs write on their software, an emulator stays an emulator no matter if it is a wrapper or all the way up to a full virtual machine.
Folks, he's telling you the straight skinny there.
WINE, the library, is true to it's eponymous acronym.
WINE, the environment is NOT true to it's name. It is a framework to fake a Windows application out, thinking it's running against Windows. By definition, a virtual environment, and therefore emulation at several differing levels. Virtual machines like with VMWare or VirtualBox are high-performing emulations- but still emulations all the same. You're not native there, though you're close. The same goes for WINE. You're close in many ways, but you're still not native (Some things run faster under it, and others, nowhere near as fast, if at all...)- and you're at the whims of the vendor of your title as they don't officially support WINE (Except for a few notable exceptions like Eve Online...they just don't...not even Blizzard.) and they can apply a fix to some perceived problem and break your usage of the title under WINE- and then not shed a single tear for you. (Witness what happened with WoW and some of their "bot" prevention measures- if it wasn't for the massive uproar that ensued, they'd have written you off, guys...).
In the end, you're sending a message. You're not interested in Linux gaming- and you're emulating things while doing it.
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Originally posted by Dragonlord View PostDoubt this as Desura is up for the cake too. And in is more open than Steam and thus caters better for the Indie titles which are on Linux more important at the time being (not in the future hopefully). Especially since Indie titles have a higher chance of getting a Linux client. Steam by itself is useless since the games you get on Steam nowadays are mostly all without a Linux client.
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Originally posted by aliendude5300 View PostThat would be an actual emulator, as it emulates the actual hardware to allow the NES game code to run. There is a huge difference.
Again...WINE the library, you're right on the money; WINE the application loader, you're not being honest by calling it an abstraction layer.
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Originally posted by Svartalf View PostI'll believe when I see it. However, having said this, if ModDB's done what they're claiming, it'll be nice if they get around to a Linux client.
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Originally posted by aliendude5300 View PostThat would be an actual emulator, as it emulates the actual hardware to allow the NES game code to run. There is a huge difference.
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