Icculus Provides An Update, But No UT3 Or Games

[Svartalf]

I am not the guy that likes to spread rumors, but I also don't have any evidence to prove it. You're just going to have to believe me or get Icculus drunk as hell :')

I'm inclined to believe it was a middleware issue, followed up by a failure to pay up because they had funds problems because UT3 tanked on them.

I wouldn't know if the Unreal II story would be true or not, but I would be leery of working for a client that didn't pay a substantive portion up-front on something after getting shafted the first time on payment with a previous contract. If true, it's a bit troubling to hear that- as much as the current story with UT3.

[V!NCENT]

I'm inclined to write the original post from Vincent off as rumour mongering without anything more substantial. The failure to deliver a UT3 Linux client has irritated quite a few people, and I can certainly see that creating motive to smear their name.

I can also remember earlier accounts had the issue as being a dispute with a third party over middleware licensing. This is not consistent with the unsubstantiated rumour.

I am not the guy that likes to spread rumors, but I also don't have any evidence to prove it. You're just going to have to believe me or get Icculus drunk as hell :')

[Notavi]

Epic could have made a call for selling "pre-release" linux clients, against a promise a money-back is not enough is collected to pay Ryan.
After all, that would be fair and smart for everyone : you pay for the specific linux client, that cost far less to Epic, Ryan is sure to be paid.

I'm inclined to write the original post from Vincent off as rumour mongering without anything more substantial. The failure to deliver a UT3 Linux client has irritated quite a few people, and I can certainly see that creating motive to smear their name.

I can also remember earlier accounts had the issue as being a dispute with a third party over middleware licensing. This is not consistent with the unsubstantiated rumour.

[Wyatt]

Not much of note? News on SDL 1.3 is plenty, thanks. As for UT3, isn't Epic rolling money? Enough that they're opening a branch in Japan, at least.

[Fixxer_Linux]

I think this is not feasible because, until Epic pays him, Ryan has the copyright on his work; but on the contrary the only entity allowed to legally ship an official modified client is Epic itself. That's a deadlock!

Epic could have made a call for selling "pre-release" linux clients, against a promise a money-back is not enough is collected to pay Ryan.
After all, that would be fair and smart for everyone : you pay for the specific linux client, that cost far less to Epic, Ryan is sure to be paid.
And we'll never know, but I'm quite sure that the missing success around UT3 can't be disconnected from the lack of linux client...

[panda84]

then why not posting in detail how much money Epic would have payed him for posting that ?

if it's not THAT much people might be willing to donate via paypal and finally one day we'll be able to play UT3 or {insert other ported game} on Linux

dunno if that's realistic ...

I think this is not feasible because, until Epic pays him, Ryan has the copyright on his work; but on the contrary the only entity allowed to legally ship an official modified client is Epic itself. That's a deadlock!

[V!NCENT]

then why not posting in detail how much money Epic would have payed him for posting that ?

if it's not THAT much people might be willing to donate via paypal and finally one day we'll be able to play UT3 or {insert other ported game} on Linux

dunno if that's realistic ...

That's because I do not know how much Epic would have payed him. I also do not see why I should pay extra for being able to play this on Linux and I doubt that Epic would approve that.

[kernelOfTruth]

Epic games has financial problems. Icculus ported Unreal II to Linux too but would not hand it over because Epic didn't pay him and UT3 is the same problem. Epic is going to try to port over UT4 to Linux themselves.

Oops is that inside info that should not have leaked? Oops... Yeah I don't give a shit I am not under an NDA and waited for them to do something about it. They didn't. I don't know people that I got that info from anymore so yeah.

then why not posting in detail how much money Epic would have payed him for posting that ?

if it's not THAT much people might be willing to donate via paypal and finally one day we'll be able to play UT3 or {insert other ported game} on Linux

dunno if that's realistic ...

[Chewi]

Just yesterday, Ryan fixed the SDL ALSA bug I've been experiencing for some time. Thanks, man.

[V!NCENT]

UT3 ? what was that again ?...

Epic games has financial problems. Icculus ported Unreal II to Linux too but would not hand it over because Epic didn't pay him and UT3 is the same problem. Epic is going to try to port over UT4 to Linux themselves.

Oops is that inside info that should not have leaked? Oops... Yeah I don't give a shit I am not under an NDA and waited for them to do something about it. They didn't. I don't know people that I got that info from anymore so yeah.