Never want to do nvidia crapshow again. Had a Dell notebook with 2060 (not some stupid Asus) and while main system used Intel graphics utilizing nvidia only for 3d, the mere existence of nvidia modules was making system extremely unstable. For example, Wine prefix creation - hello 2 seconds lag when you even can't move your cursor. Unload nvidia modules - everything is butter smooth. Now happy full-AMD desktop user and will never buy anything novideo again.
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All fine and dandy, but majority of my time i am just trying to be productive with every now and then playing a game. Nvidia drivers installed (yes the latest)..my browser is constantly flikkering..yes i am using KDE Pasma (with wayland). If i would not know better where the rootcause of the problem was, i would have hated Linux.
But i know better and yes some people would say just use the Nouveau drivers, no offense but they are even worse. And no offense to those guys that are doing the development of those drivers as they themselves have to find out how Nvidia cards work. So a lot of respect to those guys, but i can imagine that it is a lost cause.
What i hate the most about Linux are Nvidia drivers and Forticlient pain in the ..ss software i have to use for work..in other words Linux is awesome but when you have to use some essential stuff it really tests your patience.
For me also, my next build (hope in a few years) all AMD build. About the Forticlient, thinking about the best solution maybe is just have that disaster of a VPN software just run in a docker container. BTW, even with my previous job when i had to deal with forticlient on Windows it was still a disaster.
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I am more impressed with Mesa driver delivering excellent performance given its open source nature making easier to contribute as tester. Like a few comments mentioned previously, my desktop system runs on RDNA 2 architecture notably Sapphire Nitro Plus Pure RX 6950XT ( a major upgrade from the retired Radeon RX 560 4GB relegated to backup). Few days ago, I was amazed at the performance of Forza Horizons 5 running on extreme at 4K (may downgrade to ultra because of minimal visual difference) from Steam without the need of manual settings to proton. Few items to workout outside Mesa, optimizing HIP-runtime and HIP Ray for applications like Blender.
All done on Fedora 38 Workstation running on kernel 6.3 with enabled amd_pstate set to active.Last edited by finalzone; 19 May 2023, 08:48 PM.
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Originally posted by user1 View Post
This sounds like something that you have to do only if you have recently released hardware in order to achieve optimal experience. I have an RX 580 and I've even used LTS distros with LTS kernel on it and the experience was great. It's a gross misconception that you always need the latest kernel if you have an AMD / Intel GPU.
For example when I had my Radeon VII I had to update my Mesa driver to version 19.3 to easily enable the ACO compiler:
Just noticed I switched from AMD to Nvidia in 2020, after looking at this driver release.
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Originally posted by WannaBeOCer View PostGross misconception? I can understand if you play older titles sure that can get you by but new titles require driver updates to address driver bugs/performance issues. Especially if a title utilizes any of the new Vulkan extensions. Windows has game ready drivers for this reason. Doubt that will magically change on Linux for new titles.
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Originally posted by smitty3268 View PostGenerally speaking you only need to update Mesa these days, not the kernel driver (or LLVM). And even that doesn't always need to be done. A lot of times issues with new games will be fixed in DXVK, rather than needing any driver updates directly. Having that kind of translation layer that games run under makes linux a bit different than windows, in both good and bad ways.
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Originally posted by WannaBeOCer View Post
Gross misconception? I can understand if you play older titles sure that can get you by but new titles require driver updates to address driver bugs/performance issues. Especially if a title utilizes any of the new Vulkan extensions. Windows has game ready drivers for this reason. Doubt that will magically change on Linux for new titles.
For example when I had my Radeon VII I had to update my Mesa driver to version 19.3 to easily enable the ACO compiler:
Just noticed I switched from AMD to Nvidia in 2020, after looking at this driver release.
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Originally posted by WannaBeOCer View PostNo surprise, NVIDIA’s proprietary driver stack performs great. Switched from AMD to Nvidia in 2018 and haven’t had any issues. Not having to rely on third party repositories or using a bleeding edge kernel to upgrade the graphics driver has definitely improved my system’s stability.
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Originally posted by WannaBeOCer View PostNo surprise, NVIDIA’s proprietary driver stack performs great. Switched from AMD to Nvidia in 2018 and haven’t had any issues. Not having to rely on third party repositories or using a bleeding edge kernel to upgrade the graphics driver has definitely improved my system’s stability.
This is just my experience: I had to replace a graphics card, but only a matching form-factor Nvidia card was available. I found out later that the proprietary drivers supporting that card were no longer available in the *buntu repositories. I don't know about your financial status, but I'm not willing to pay for a new greenish card every few months.
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