Originally posted by Hamish Wilson
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and another thing I saw demonstrations of woman that called people rapists just because the belived in other theorie... feminism is very agressive, its ok to have different view-points different belives but I know not much groups that are so aggressive than feminist groups.
And no its not woman vs men, we have rich men vs poor man and woman... you just dont get that, just because you are in a "minority" thats not even true, because woman have similiar percentage in people in the community, but you feal discriminated like a minority...
So even if at some point, ok lets say (clearly thats not my opinion) even today woman would have been discreminated, so are other groups where are the foreigner-lobbiest on universities or schools or in bigger comapnies? maybe in the biggest companies there is also that I dont know but in universities at least here in germany not... where is the lobbiest for "big people". where the lobbiest for drug users...
would you really think that if woman from your view would not discreminated anymore, whatever that means (guaranteed job over unemployed man?) our biggest problems in the world would be solved? I dont think so... so its wasted time to fight about that.
I believe in freedom, in real freedom, to give everybody the right to do everything is not enough, real freedom is when you also are free to deny all. so you can say I dont take this job and dont hunger to death because of that, or I dont die on the next small illness because I have no health ensurence. so that you cannot not be blackmailed.
And there are stuff where you clearly see, that woman take their own freedom by them self... I mean shurely there are a few man that really force their wife to clean the house... but often its the other way around... or the woman does it without the man ever said he think that it needs to be done... maybe its the fear what the neighbor WOMAN says or the mother WOMAN says if they visit but thats nothing a man is guilty off. If woman have a genetic (I say IF) smaller dirt-tolerance its not the fault of the man.
Btu the point I really wanted to make... if nobody can be blackmailed and they still do stuff its their fault isnt it? So, why not fight together for a basic income grant, individualy also for children, and of course the same amount for the woman. Then it does not even matter who was right you or we.
All woman can not be forced to do anything they dont want. if they do something its because they want it that way.
But of course you fear more that you can have some few rich individuals and that woman are not there to help enslave all the others.
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