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Originally posted by schmalzler View PostJust use stable, that should give you workable compinations. If a package needs its dep with a certain feature enabled controlled by a USE-Flag portage will compain until you turn on the USE-Flag.
If there are limitations concerning compatible versions of the dependencies, that's handled, too.
And don't forget: there are many packages maintaining API (many even ABI) compatibility. If API/ABI breaks (poppler...) that will get known quite fast. Furthermore there is just a small number of packages that are needed by really much packages.
Of course there still is a quite large number of possible combinations, but managing that is far from impossible - don't forget: Gentoo users have to compile on their own, there are many "testers" for such breakage
I was giving this response to give a practical example that uid313 for wanting a 'loosely coupled and tightly cohesive' is not practically doable.
Originally posted by schmalzler View PostConcerning your smartd problem: bug #, please!
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Originally posted by uid313 View Postsystemd, D-Bus, kernel D-Bus?
It sounds like a big dependency chain where everything is depending on each other and nothing is replacable.
systemd seems very intrusive.
Will it be possible to run a system without systemd?
Will it be possible to replace systemd?
Will it be possible to remove systemd?Last edited by frign; 27 March 2013, 11:47 AM.
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Originally posted by frign View PostUsing Gentoo, I set it up so that I don't even need D-Bus on my system, so yes, it definitely is possible to go without systemd and dbus, given you are using none of the pre-setup distributions who _will_ require systemd (e.g. Ubuntu).
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Originally posted by Rexilion View PostQuestion: Why would you want to do that? Security?
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Originally posted by Sonadow View PostI'd really like to know how you can set up a system without dbus when Gnome, KDE and Firefox have dbus as a dependency.
Instead of using Firefox, I employ DWB based on webkit-gtk, which even allows me to drop of GTK+3 out of the ship and only running GTK+2.
That's how it works
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Originally posted by frign View PostI am using DWM instead of Gnome, because Gnome 3 sucks and DWM sucks less (literally, check out http://suckless.org).
Instead of using Firefox, I employ DWB based on webkit-gtk, which even allows me to drop of GTK+3 out of the ship and only running GTK+2.
That's how it works
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