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Originally posted by Ericg View PostKernel's not really that bloated... I mean could it use SOME trimming, sure, but everything is optional and all drivers are modules.
Unless youre one of those guys that get angry over KMS in which case...really, get over it. KMS works the best, you get the best performance. The only downside to KMS is graphics drivers can cause a kernel crash. But those stability issues should hopefully be sorted out by the open source nature of the drivers. These aren't closed-source blobs that we can't fix problems with. If there's a crash or problem we CAN fix them.
An approach closer to a micro-kernel regarding the drivers would seem better in my opinion at least. And yes, I've gotten multiple kernel panics/crashes with at least nouveau lately ..
The micro-kernel part I'm talking about is kind of like Windows handles it. It would probably need more changes than just the kernel though, to do the graphics driver part as well though(being able to reload the driver without [basically] rebooting, since it seems Xorg will crash anyway, so all apps will too).
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There are many gaps in this list:
1. Systemd IS LENNARTWARE. It's made by Lennart Poettering, so, it's satanic, it will break your bones and your house.
2. Systemd doesn't support audio hardware acceleration. It does audio software mixing... wait... was it PulseAudio?
3. Systemd is PulseAudio. See 1.
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Originally posted by Alejandro Nova View Post<moronic-trolling>
There are many gaps in this list:
1. Systemd IS LENNARTWARE. It's made by Lennart Poettering, so, it's satanic, it will break your bones and your house.
2. Systemd doesn't support audio hardware acceleration. It does audio software mixing... wait... was it PulseAudio?
3. Systemd is PulseAudio. See 1.
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Originally posted by Rigaldo View PostWell, I can't see how relying in the sheer absence of bugs for stability would be good practice under any circumstances. Preventing a problem is just as important as being able to deal with it once it arrives(cause it usually will).
An approach closer to a micro-kernel regarding the drivers would seem better in my opinion at least. And yes, I've gotten multiple kernel panics/crashes with at least nouveau lately ..
The micro-kernel part I'm talking about is kind of like Windows handles it. It would probably need more changes than just the kernel though, to do the graphics driver part as well though(being able to reload the driver without [basically] rebooting, since it seems Xorg will crash anyway, so all apps will too).
As far as nouveau... nouveau just want through a massive re-write kernel-side so bugs/panics will probably happen until all the kinks get worked out with the new code. Make sure to file a bug though if you think you can give enough detail to give the developers an idea of whats happening :PAll opinions are my own not those of my employer if you know who they are.
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True, there are other priorities for now. If the kernel would move to a more modular(if this is the correct characterization for what i mentioned) it would be beneficial, for testing drivers among other things.
On another note, I wonder if Ubuntu will eventually also transition to Systemd.
I had read something about not considering it reliable enough yet and there might be a switch after the coming LTS, but that's rumors.
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Originally posted by systemd anals bsdsystemd is the best, all who disagree are dirty BSD proprietary whores
Well, how about showing us your code? Do you even know how to code?
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Originally posted by systemd anals bsdOnly people who love to present their asses for M$ and Apple to penetrate us vi or vim.
Get a life and use GNU EMACS or just burn yourself
vi sucks.
EMACS rulez
Also, still waiting for your code, so that we can see if it is as messy as you claim to the BSD code to be.
Man, you suck as a troll, Phoronix has seen much better trolls already, go home, make your homework and come back if you are a full blown troll, not a clueless 12 years old.
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