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Originally posted by smitty3268 View PostBut at least they were up front about it. The difference is that Apple waited until after Adobe spent millions to get their product running on the iPhone, and only then took away the rug right at the last moment. The issue is the capriciousness and the lack of hard rules. The fact that you might be selling something on the iPhone right now, only to suddenly have it taken away because some app reviewer changes their mind. With MS, you always know where you stand.
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Originally posted by deanjo View PostWith reguards to adobe, they knew the score well before hand and adobe tried to sneak around and find a loophole.
I find it very difficult to feel any sympathy towards Adobe, they're a real bastard of a company in my book. But Apple has actually managed to do it for me.
Anyway, i'm getting tired of this conversation. So i'll end it, in apparently the only way that will make you happy.
You're absolutely correct, deanjo, Apple is a perfect company in every way and I have no idea what I was thinking when i dared to make a small criticism of it. I apologize, and will never bring this matter up again. /sarcasm
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Originally posted by smitty3268 View PostYou're absolutely correct, deanjo, Apple is a perfect company in every way and I have no idea what I was thinking when i dared to make a small criticism of it. I apologize, and will never bring this matter up again. /sarcasm
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Apple... hmzzzz...
A company that designs hardware that the rest of the industry follows. In other words they do not care if something costs more money (it's for the elites anyway) as long as it makes it a more usable product.
Phone companies where still like: It can play MP3's now! And Apple came with touchscreens. Fine... I bought a Samsung phone with a touchscreen and I wouldn't be able to go back (web browsing).
I like the fact that Apple raises the bar for consumer products so that companies feel like that they have to make better products so they can still compete.
What else? They are pushing Unix to the masses. I like that too, because they also use open standards. No problem with that.
Their products focus heavily in minimalistic design, which is what a lot of avarage computer users realy like/need.
Apple is probably the only company that makes user-friendly computers.
Will I ever buy it? No chance in hell:
-Too expensive
-Too restricted
-Less functionality
-Security hell (Apple uses a lot of FLOSS projects code and Mac OS X isn't updated daily on average, which means hackers only need to see what holes are patched in the corresponding FLOSS and exploit it on Mac users, so this is hell when more people start using Apple products)
And Linux pwns the shit out of Apple IMHO.
My $0,04
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Originally posted by deanjo View PostI would also like to point out that patents do not stifle innovation. They stifle duplication.
So they are in effect stifling innovation. And in fact they do this by duplicating things that already existed long before. Even if the Apple engineers re-invented some of those things independently, they should never have gotten a patent for it.
Patent only ever were somewhat useful when used by single inventors or small shops long ago. Back when the automobile and the telegraph were invented. Nowadays the stream of new ideas is so much larger, there are so much more engineers, and there is so much big money behind it that patent do not help innovation, but they hinder it.
They should be abolished altogether, if only to get rid of patent trolls (company who only buy patents for litigation but make no products themselves).
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Originally posted by deanjo View PostSo I guess openCL, Grand central, cups, LLVM don't exist then in your limited vision.
But ok, OpenCL is a good contribution, I don't know much about grand central (it is some kind of queuing scheduler for many small threads) or LLVM (some kind of compiler useful for GPU's).
Apple is not the only 'bad apple' among software or hardware companies, or other big companies in the world. It is all cut-throat competition. I know that. I just don't like what Apple does and they are getting way too powerful.
The open source community still does not fully understand the danger coming from Apple, still happily port all Linux's best software to OS X. That undermines the market for free operating systems.
On the other hand, Linux needs to get graphics (X, video, 3D), audio, and api infrastructure in order yesterday. There are far too many problems with it.
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Originally posted by perpetualrabbit View PostReally? Well for instance touchscreens, including experiments with multitouch have been around for almost as long as the mouse. Any gestures you can make on a (multi-)touch screen as well. Yet Apple has patented multitouch and gestures like pinching, which is completely trivial.
So they are in effect stifling innovation. And in fact they do this by duplicating things that already existed long before. Even if the Apple engineers re-invented some of those things independently, they should never have gotten a patent for it.
Patent only ever were somewhat useful when used by single inventors or small shops long ago. Back when the automobile and the telegraph were invented. Nowadays the stream of new ideas is so much larger, there are so much more engineers, and there is so much big money behind it that patent do not help innovation, but they hinder it.
They should be abolished altogether, if only to get rid of patent trolls (company who only buy patents for litigation but make no products themselves).
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