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    Phoronix: Lima: Another Way Of Spinning Up Simple, Integrated Linux VMs on macOS

    Making some rounds this weekend is the "Lima" project. No, not to be confused with the open-source Arm Mali reverse-engineered project of the same name, but rather an effort to be like an unofficial "macOS subsystem for Linux."..

    https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?pa...inux-VMs-macOS

  • #2
    Why does everyone keep describing these things backwards...

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    • #3
      Originally posted by Shiba View Post
      Why does everyone keep describing these things backwards...
      IMHO, WSL makes more sense if you add an apostrophe and read it as "Windows' Subsystem For Linux". That implies Windows owns the Subsystem For Linux. I can be an overly literal person at times so that's how I make sense of it.

      Sadly, I think we're just going to have to accept the dumbass X Subsystem For Y nomenclature.

      That said, if you look at it from a titular perspective it can also be read very literally as Windows Subsystem For Linux and still be correct. Windows has a Subsystem that is For Linux. That titular use, however, is just backwards from how most people speak in everyday life where a Windows subsystem for Linux would mean a Windows VM on Fedora.

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      • #4
        Replacing "for" with "to" would solve this naming issue? Windows Subsystem To Linux?

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        • #5
          Considering its precursor was SFU (Windows Services for UNIX), it consistently makes very little sense.

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          • #6
            Windows Subsystem for Linux
            Windows Accessories
            Windows Ease of Access

            Subsystem for Linux, of Windows
            Accessories, of Windows
            Ease of Access, of Windows

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            • #7
              Yeah not sure about this one because MacOS does not have a builtin hypervisor like Windows/Linux.

              Qemu.. ewwwh... There was some work to port Bhyve from FreeBSD (called Xhyve) but.. It was abandoned. -- Actually it may be alive.. this would be the right way to do Linux on MacOS though.

              The good news is you kind of don't need this... MacOS is Unix anyhow and can "just run" most of the stuff you need or would want. Darwin (macos without quarts) could run all of KDE.. That is... so long as Linux recognizes the importance of being portable to Unix.. (hint hint Linux boys)
              Last edited by k1e0x; 17 May 2021, 03:44 PM.

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              • #8
                Originally posted by Shiba View Post
                Why does everyone keep describing these things backwards...
                Because it is the only way to name Windows before Linux.

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                • #9
                  ive been pleasantly surprised at the number of “Linux apps” already running on M1 Macs. Almost all are native too. I don’t think people grasp that Mac OS is UNIX. At least for now it is.

                  in any event I have to wonder why this exists, if you really need an app from the Linux world that doesn’t already run on Mac OS you can run Linux in a VM. Or you could help with a port to Mac OS if a developer needs it.

                  Originally posted by k1e0x View Post
                  Yeah not sure about this one because MacOS does not have a builtin hypervisor like Windows/Linux.

                  Qemu.. ewwwh... There was some work to port Bhyve from FreeBSD (called Xhyve) but.. It was abandoned. -- Actually it may be alive.. this would be the right way to do Linux on MacOS though.

                  The good news is you kind of don't need this... MacOS is Unix anyhow and can "just run" most of the stuff you need or would want. Darwin (macos without quarts) could run all of KDE.. That is... so long as Linux recognizes the importance of being portable to Unix.. (hint hint Linux boys)

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by k1e0x View Post
                    Yeah not sure about this one because MacOS does not have a builtin hypervisor like Windows/Linux.
                    macOS does have a built in hypervisor. They even have a simple framework to interact with it. It’s not advanced but it provides the minimum set of functionality to run an OS with networking. It’s just lacks graphics and other advanced features.

                    https://developer.apple.com/documentation/hypervisor
                    Last edited by amxfonseca; 18 May 2021, 06:39 AM.

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