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    Phoronix: System76 Continues Refining Their Pop!_OS

    Besides working on disabling ME in all their laptops, the System76 team has also been busy working on their new Ubuntu-derived Pop!_OS operating system...

    http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?pag...op-OS-December

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    It looks nice. It reminds me the theme of the LineageOS I'm using on my tablet.
    Currently, I'm running it on a VM and it's a bit early to get promoted from VM to real HW, but it looks promising.

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    • #3
      For those who said things along the lines of 'Oh no, not another distro...', from the blog :

      Upstream is a key part of the work we do

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      • #4
        If they were competitive with other Clevo rebranders I'd buy an Oryx Pro with GeForce 1060. When the price difference is $1000 (Prostar or Sager) vs $1500 though...

        http://www.xoticpc.com/sager-np7850-clevo-n850hp6.html
        https://www.newegg.com/Product/Produ...9SIAATJ5NR7301

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        • #5
          Originally posted by InsideJob View Post
          If they were competitive with other Clevo rebranders I'd buy an Oryx Pro with GeForce 1060. When the price difference is $1000 (Prostar or Sager) vs $1500 though...

          http://www.xoticpc.com/sager-np7850-clevo-n850hp6.html
          https://www.newegg.com/Product/Produ...9SIAATJ5NR7301
          I have an Oryx Pro, the GTX 980m version. From my understanding, it's not just a rebrand, they also have some work done on the bios level. I know that because they at first shipped a unit with the wrong bios then I contacted support about issues and they said something like "it seems you don't have the right bios flashed", and they shipped me a new unit that didn't have the issues I was having (can't remember what the issues really were, it's been a while). In other words, I'm not sure you'll get the same experience if you go with Sager or Prostar. Also, when I bought the machine it was still more expensive than a Sager but the difference wasn't as big as 500$. Double check, maybe there are differences you didn't notice. For instance, it seems both of the links you posted are for systems with a max ram of 32gb, compared to the 64gb of the Oryx Pro. Also, you won't get a disabled ME with Sager or Prostar AFAIK; that by itself is worth some price difference.

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          • #6
            I'm sure their support is much better than Prostar or Sager. As a Linux guy though, I'm used to doing things myself. And I'm not sure how much value Pop%OS adds but the Prostar comes with Windows 10 too and I'm pretty sure that's still worth something (not much, but something), especially if you like flashing your own firmware. Plus, you can now order Prostar at Walmart.

            https://www.walmart.com/ip/PROSTAR-C...ws-1/710324219

            You're right though, the Onyx Pro or whatever they call it might be a slightly different Clevo model.

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            • #7
              Originally posted by InsideJob View Post
              As a Linux guy though, I'm used to doing things myself.
              In other words, you can and want to spend time on fixing DSDT tables?

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              • #8
                Originally posted by RussianNeuroMancer View Post
                In other words, you can and want to spend time on fixing DSDT tables?
                It's fun not only fix DSDT tables, but all the ACPI tables

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by RussianNeuroMancer View Post
                  In other words, you can and want to spend time on fixing DSDT tables?
                  That's fun for the whole family.

                  I re-sell instantly a laptop with severe DSDT tables issues (since I buy used stuff I can do that with limited loss), and I did just that for my last laptop.

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by sarmad View Post
                    I have an Oryx Pro, the GTX 980m version. From my understanding, it's not just a rebrand, they also have some work done on the bios level.
                    Most likely it was an ACPI table issue in the "stock" UEFI firmware (the one from Clevo) that they fixed in their own UEFI firmware.

                    ACPI is a standardized description of the local hardware devices provided by the board firmware to the Linux kernel (or Windows or MacOS), issues in these tables mean you might not be able to adjust brightness or "Fn" buttons don't work, or some hardware features (usually powersaving states or hybernation) won't be available, or the whole damn thing won't boot at all as the GPU driver panics the kernel.

                    An example of some guy hacking around a very bad case of acpi/dsdt issues http://www.mikejonesey.co.uk/linux/hp-envy-15-ah150sa

                    So yeah, if System76 guarantees that their ACPI is clean for Linux, that's a significant added value right there.

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